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Table of Contents:	A digital edition of Vincent van Gogh's letters (2 messages) app/rdg, some screen ideas ? (6 messages) Books of the Bible -- <title level="?"> (4 messages) certainty, @match, and XPaths redux (7 messages) Computational linguistics criticism (4 messages) Conference Registration information (1 message) DC-2009 Last days for Online Registration (1 message) DH 2010: new plenary, CFP deadline extended (1 message) DH2010: Digital Humanities 2010 CFP (1 message) Early registration closes in 10 hours (1 message) early registration ends this week (1 message) Encoding Initials and Passages in a commonplace book (3 messages) example of msdesc and lacunae (1 message) Final reminder: on-line registration for TEI Conference closes tonight at 0000 UTC. (1 message) floatingtext vs quote (11 messages) Homogeneity of Encoding (7 messages) In witness, why not repository and idno ? (6 messages) Last chance for early registration (1 message) Libraries SIG Meeting at TEI Members' Meeting in Ann Arbor (1 message) Marking up newspapers and multiple hierarchies (2 messages) nxml-mode & Emacs23 on Debian (6 messages) p4 to p5 xsl transition headaches (2 messages) Phonemic/Phonetic markup (3 messages) position available in digital Sanskrit library project (1 message) Registration followup (1 message) Research positions available at Unifob AKSIS in Bergen, Norway (1 message) Second last reminder: online registration for the TEI conference closes November 1, 0000 UTC. (1 message) Seeking example TEI files for performance texts (1 message) Serge Heiden new convenor of TEI Tools SIG (2 messages) Strategies for encoding printed forms? (5 messages) tagging akkadian determinatives (3 messages) TEI-MARC conversion (6 messages) Tool for adding tags and comments (3 messages) Using TEI to prepare memorandum (3 messages) vesta version (4 messages) WORKSHOP: Host your texts on Google in one day (1 message) [ann] oXygen XML editor 11 (1 message) [Fwd: Digitizing Chinese Characters] (1 message) [Fwd: Re: In witness, why not repository and idno ?] (1 message)

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A digital edition of Vincent van Gogh's letters

A digital edition of Vincent van Gogh's letters

pboot

Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:12:49 +0200

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Re: A digital edition of Vincent van Gogh's letters

Elizabeth McAulay

Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:29:51 -0700

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app/rdg, some screen ideas ?

app/rdg, some screen ideas ?

"Frédéric Glorieux (École nationale des chartes)"

Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:16:16 +0200

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Re: app/rdg, some screen ideas ?

Tomaz Erjavec

Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:25:16 +0200

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Re: app/rdg, some screen ideas ?

Mikel L. Forcada

Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:34:16 +0200

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Re: app/rdg, some screen ideas ?

"Frédéric Glorieux (École nationale des chartes)"

Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:30:02 +0200

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Re: app/rdg, some screen ideas ?

"Frédéric Glorieux (École nationale des chartes)"

Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:57:57 +0200

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Re: app/rdg, some screen ideas ?

Mikel L. Forcada

Sat, 3 Oct 2009 08:43:38 +0200

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Books of the Bible -- <title level="?">

Books of the Bible -- </a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Martin Holmes</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:57:53 -0700</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">28 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Lou Burnard wrote:<br><br>>> If you were mentioning (say) Genesis in a born-digital TEI text, what<br>>> value would you give @level on the <title> attribute? I think "m", but<br>>> it is in one sense a constituent of a larger work, so possibly "a"?<br>>> Chicago says no italicization (or quotes, of course), so they don\'t<br>>> behave like conventional "m" or "a" titles.<br>>><br>> I dont think the @level parameter makes much sense on <title> except<br>> when it\'s a child of <bibl> [...]','Re: Books of the Bible -- <title level="?">','Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:57:28 -0700')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=44482">Re: Books of the Bible -- <title level="?"></a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Martin Holmes</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:57:28 -0700</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">45 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Martin Holmes wrote:<br>> Hi folks,<br>><br>> If you were mentioning (say) Genesis in a born-digital TEI text, what<br>> value would you give @level on the <title> attribute? I think "m", but<br>> it is in one sense a constituent of a larger work, so possibly "a"?<br>> Chicago says no italicization (or quotes, of course), so they don\'t<br>> behave like conventional "m" or "a" titles.<br>><br>> All help appreciated,<br>> Martin<br>><br>I dont think the @level parameter makes much sense on <title> except<br>when it\'s a child of <bibl>','Re: Books of the Bible -- <title level="?">','Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:11:15 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=46058">Re: Books of the Bible -- <title level="?"></a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Lou Burnard</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:11:15 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">26 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('On 10/16/2009 10:57 AM, Martin Holmes wrote:<br>> Lou Burnard wrote:<br>><br>>>> If you were mentioning (say) Genesis in a born-digital TEI text,<br>>>> what value would you give @level on the <title> attribute? I think<br>>>> "m", but it is in one sense a constituent of a larger work, so<br>>>> possibly "a"? Chicago says no italicization (or quotes, of course),<br>>>> so they don\'t behave like conventional "m" or "a" titles.<br>>> I dont think the @level parameter makes much sense on <title> except<br>>> when it\'s a child of <bibl><br>><br>> I use it all [...]','Re: Books of the Bible -- <title level="?">','Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:53:59 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=47327">Re: Books of the Bible -- <title level="?"></a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Brett Zamir</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:53:59 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">60 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="4"></a><a href="#4">certainty, @match, and XPaths redux</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Dear TEI-ers,<br><br>As part of the IDP2 project, we\'ve come across the need to have<br><certainty> elements that point from themselves to the element to<br>which they refer using the @match attribute. Absolute XPaths are not<br>feasible because of the environment within which the texts will be<br>edited (in which they are converted from XML to a Leiden-esque format<br>and back). Gabby Bodard created a ticket for our proposal (https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2877940&group_id=106328&atid=644065<br>), and I\'ve attached the text justifying it in a comment (also<br>appended below). [...]','certainty, @match, and XPaths redux','Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:17:36 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=45251">certainty, @match, and XPaths redux</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Hugh Cayless</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:17:36 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">95 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi Hugh! I already posted to the feature request, as I saw that<br>before I saw this. Sorry.<br><br>I don\'t have time to think through all the ramifications right now,<br>but it seems important to keep xml:base= in mind when deciding on<br>default contexts.','Re: certainty, @match, and XPaths redux','Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:22:35 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=46887">Re: certainty, @match, and XPaths redux</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:22:35 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">17 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi,<br><br>At 01:17 PM 10/16/2009, Hugh wrote:<br>>In the thread on TEI-L referenced above, Wendell Piez voiced some<br>>objections to the use of @match, based on its similarity to XSLT\'s<br>>@match,<br>>which can only contain absolute XPath patterns. The use of a new<br>>attribute<br>>(perhaps @select, like XSLT @select) was suggested, but since there is<br>>already a @select attribute in the att.global.linking module, we would<br>>prefer to modify the definition of TEI @match instead. A further note in<br>>the guidelines stating that TEI @match is not XSLT @match might be<br>>warranted. [...]','Re: certainty, @match, and XPaths redux','Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:27:13 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=50495">Re: certainty, @match, and XPaths redux</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wendell Piez</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:27:13 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">103 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Comments inline below...<br><br>Hugh<br><br>On Oct 19, 2009, at 11:27 AM, Wendell Piez wrote:<br><br>> I\'m sorry to flog the horse, and certainly hope this is my last post<br>> on this topic. But for the record I\'d like to offer my own summary<br>> of what\'s at issue. Readers who don\'t care are welcome to pass on,<br>> or skip to the bottom. :-)<br>><br>> Hugh\'s paraphrase of my objection isn\'t entirely right. There is no<br>> such thing as an "absolute pattern" per se, in XSLT; and while a<br>> @match must be a pattern, patterns do [...]','Re: certainty, @match, and XPaths redux','Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:26:58 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=51318">Re: certainty, @match, and XPaths redux</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Hugh Cayless</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:26:58 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">107 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('> I think you\'re right on all counts, but also that the damage is<br>> done.<br><br>I also agree w/ Wendell on all important counts. But given that<br>match= was only created in June and released in July of this year,<br>with careful community canvassing TEI may be able to back out of this<br>one. [...]','Re: certainty, @match, and XPaths redux','Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:27:05 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=70392">Re: certainty, @match, and XPaths redux</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:27:05 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">106 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hmm...It seems pretty clear to me that all of those @targets are<br>relative to the document root. Because @target\'s value is an<br>xsd:anyURI, the context is the current document (as the \'#\' implies),<br>therefore target="#xpath1(..)" can\'t work. So this puts us right back<br>where we started. I\'m happy to be proved wrong, but that\'s my reading<br>of it. Now, I do agree that unless the Guidelines are emended to make<br>the current element containing the @match the default context of its<br>XPath, then you\'re completely right, and @match is redundant. [...]','Re: certainty, @match, and XPaths redux','Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:11:43 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=70886">Re: certainty, @match, and XPaths redux</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Hugh Cayless</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:11:43 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">75 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hello,<br><br>Do excuse my jumping in, this thread is still on my "to-read" list, I\'ve<br>only been skimming and highlighting the messages so far, but I thought<br>I\'d address one side issue that Hugh brought up:<br><br>Hugh Cayless writes:<br>[...]<br>> My understanding is that XPointer is considered to be quite dead (see<br>> the thread at http://www.stylusstudio.com/xmldev/200908/post90310.html<br>> for example). That doesn\'t mean new implementations of the spec are<br>> impossible, but it does make them pretty unlikely. It would be worth<br>> canvassing the community for use of XPointer and considering deprecating<br>> *it* instead. [...]','Re: certainty, @match, and XPaths redux','Sat, 31 Oct 2009 06:29:32 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=73164">Re: certainty, @match, and XPaths redux</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Piotr Bański</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sat, 31 Oct 2009 06:29:32 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">43 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="5"></a><a href="#5">Computational linguistics criticism</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Dear TEI-L,<br><br>I wonder if anyone could give me a few pointers on a literature hunt?<br>I\'m trying to get into the literature which examines the impact of<br>computational techniques on humanities disciplines, especially<br>musicology, but also literary studies as a comparison. I\'m interested<br>in what anyone may have said about uptake of techniques amongst<br>scholars, the kinds of outputs that scholars using technology are<br>producing, and especially criticism of the idea of constructing<br>humanities databases. While I\'ve found a few things for musicology,<br>I\'m a bit stuck as to where to look for such a critical analysis of<br>computational [...]','Computational linguistics criticism','Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:37:06 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=2325">Computational linguistics criticism</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Richard Lewis</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:37:06 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">40 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Richard,<br>If you\'re interested in the more philosophical side of digital<br>humanities, I\'d recommend the work of Willard McCarthy and N. Katherine<br>Hayles. I can\'t give you suggestions about databases.<br><br>Linda Patrik<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: TEI (Text Encoding Initiative) public discussion list<br>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Richard Lewis<br>Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 11:37 AM<br>To: [log in to unmask]<br>Subject: Computational linguistics criticism [...]','Re: Computational linguistics criticism','Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:27:13 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=3183">Re: Computational linguistics criticism</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Patrik, Linda</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:27:13 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">57 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Manfred Thaller wrote several critiques of relational databases and their limitations for use in humanitites research in the late 1980s and 1990s. He developed the database management system Kleio, which was a generatl database system suitable to store and query historical sources. It was used by a number of projects, but I think there is no further development on this. [...]','Re: Computational linguistics criticism','Sat, 3 Oct 2009 11:04:02 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=7653">Re: Computational linguistics criticism</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Croenen, Godfried</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sat, 3 Oct 2009 11:04:02 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">81 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('I would have a look at the work of John Bradley, see<br>http://www.cch.kcl.ac.uk/legacy/tmp/profiles/jb.htm<br><br>N.<br><br>On 03.10.2009, at 12:04, Croenen, Godfried wrote:<br><br>> Manfred Thaller wrote several critiques of relational databases and<br>> their limitations for use in humanitites research in the late 1980s<br>> and 1990s. He developed the database management system Kleio, which<br>> was a generatl database system suitable to store and query<br>> historical sources. It was used by a number of projects, but I think<br>> there is no further development on this.<br>><br>> See http://www.hki.uni-koeln.de/manfred-thaller-dr-phil-prof<br>><br>> Godfried<br>> --<br>> Dr. Godfried Croenen<br> [...]','Re: Computational linguistics criticism','Sat, 3 Oct 2009 13:01:36 +0200')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=8228">Re: Computational linguistics criticism</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Toufexis Notis</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sat, 3 Oct 2009 13:01:36 +0200</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">94 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="6"></a><a href="#6">Conference Registration information</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Early registration for the conference (November 9-15, Ann Arbor MI) was<br>initially supposed to close on October 10th so we could finalise numbers<br>with the caterers. Given the number of people who started registering<br>over the weekend and through last week, however, we decided to hold the<br>early registration open for another two weeks. [...]','Conference Registration information','Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:40:46 -0600')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=54682">Conference Registration information</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Daniel Paul O'Donnell</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:40:46 -0600</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">45 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="7"></a><a href="#7">DC-2009 Last days for Online Registration</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Dear all,<br><br>Apologies for cross-posting<br><br>October 5th is the last day to register online via the conference<br>websitefor the 2009 International Conference on Dublin Core and<br>Metadata<br>Applications (DC2009) to be held from 12 through 16 October 2009 in Seoul,<br>Korea. On-site registration will be available while the conference is in<br>session.<br><br>This year\'s conference focuses on the *Semantic Interoperability of Linked<br>Data*. [...]','DC-2009 Last days for Online Registration','Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:24:46 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=6383">DC-2009 Last days for Online Registration</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Myung-Ja Han</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:24:46 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">389 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="8"></a><a href="#8">DH 2010: new plenary, CFP deadline extended</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('We are pleased to announce the Call for Papers for the Digital Humanities 2010<br>Conference. Due to many requests, we are also extending the submissions<br>deadline to Nov. 15, 2009<br><br>New! Melissa Terras will address the conference in a plenary invited talk.<br><br>Alliance of Digital Humanities Organizations<br>Digital Humanities 2010<br>Call for Papers<br>!Revised! Abstract Deadline: Nov. 15, 2009 [...]','DH 2010: new plenary, CFP deadline extended','Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:08:59 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=75313">DH 2010: new plenary, CFP deadline extended</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:08:59 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">158 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="9"></a><a href="#9">DH2010: Digital Humanities 2010 CFP</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('We are pleased to announce the Call for Papers for the Digital Humanities 2010<br>Conference.<br><br>Alliance of Digital Humanities Organizations<br>Digital Humanities 2010<br>Call for Papers<br>Abstract Deadline: Oct. 31, 2009<br><br>Proposals must be submitted electronically using the system which will be<br>available at the conference web site from October 8th. Presentations may be<br>any of the following: [...]','DH2010: Digital Humanities 2010 CFP','Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:42:42 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=18244">DH2010: Digital Humanities 2010 CFP</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:42:42 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">161 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="10"></a><a href="#10">Early registration closes in 10 hours</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hello all,<br><br>A final reminder just so that nobody comes an hour too late to the<br>registration site: we will be closing early registration in just under<br>10 hours, at 0000 UTC (2000 New York; 0100 London). At that point<br>registration will go up by $20.<br><br>The final date for online registration is November 1, 0000 UTC. After<br>that registration will be accepted in person at the conference site. It<br>will likely be difficult-to-impossible to offer access to the wireless<br>network to anybody who registers after the close of online registration. [...]','Early registration closes in 10 hours','Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:24:15 -0600')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=62571">Early registration closes in 10 hours</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Daniel Paul O'Donnell</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:24:15 -0600</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">41 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="11"></a><a href="#11">early registration ends this week</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('This is a friendly reminder that early registration for the 2009 TEI<br>Conference and Members\' Meeting (which will take place in Ann Arbor,<br>MI from Thu 12 Nov to Sat 14 Nov, with pre- and post- conference<br>events as well) ends on Sat 10 Oct. The cost of registering goes up<br>20% to 50% (depending on the category) by Sun 11 Oct. [...]','early registration ends this week','Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:25:41 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=12017">early registration ends this week</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:25:41 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">24 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="12"></a><a href="#12">Encoding Initials and Passages in a commonplace book</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Dear All,<br><br>I am transcribing a fifteenth century Italian commonplace book where either<br>longer or shorter passages are separated by empty space and usually each<br>passage begins with an enlarged letter without decoration which is a kind of<br>minor initial. As now I am working with microfilm copy I do not know if the<br>letter is colored or not. I wish to know what tag I should use for signing<br>this enlarged letter or minor initial. For marking each passage of the ms I<br>use the <p> element. Does anybody has experience how to encode this, quite<br>typical, layout of [...]','Encoding Initials and Passages in a commonplace book','Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:34:52 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=37475">Encoding Initials and Passages in a commonplace book</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Gábor Tóth</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:34:52 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">42 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Gabor,<br><br>for the structure of a commonplace manuscript we have to deal with<br>(16th century, Latin text, written in Dalmatia) we have devised the<br>following model:<br>* a div for each author / book excerpted<br>* a list for each lemma (e. g. audacia, avaritia etc.)<br>* the lema is a head of the list<br>* each entry is an item ending with the page number<br>--- the idea being that afterwards we could easily reorder the<br>material with XSLT, gathering all commonplaces from a specific book<br>etc. [...]','Re: Encoding Initials and Passages in a commonplace book','Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:29:01 +0200')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=38915">Re: Encoding Initials and Passages in a commonplace book</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Neven Jovanovic</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:29:01 +0200</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">48 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('I think you need something more than a <p> for each passage, since<br>presumably you will find some cases where there is a passage that<br>contains more than one paragraph. I\'d suggest <div> or <quote>,<br>depending on whether the passages also contain things like headings or<br>comments (which would suggest more than just plain <quote>) [...]','Re: Encoding Initials and Passages in a commonplace book','Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:31:58 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=39641">Re: Encoding Initials and Passages in a commonplace book</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Lou</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:31:58 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">84 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="13"></a><a href="#13">example of msdesc and lacunae</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Greetings on a Friday evening:<br><br>I\'m assisting in developing a template for encoding header information<br>for palm leaf manuscripts. the msdesc works well for the most part,<br>and we are pretty comfortable using its features.<br><br>My question is about best practices, or for that matter, any practices -<br><br>As the encoders indicate the number of pages, and their foliation,<br>probably in extent, we would like to show the text that surrounds<br>lacunas. [...]','example of msdesc and lacunae','Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:28:43 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=48197">example of msdesc and lacunae</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Elli Mylonas</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:28:43 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">42 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="14"></a><a href="#14">Final reminder: on-line registration for TEI Conference closes tonight at 0000 UTC.</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi all,<br><br>A final reminder: on-line registration for the TEI conference in Ann<br>Arbor (Nov. 9-15, with the conference portion November 12-14) closes<br>this evening at 0000 UTC. While registration will be available in Ann<br>Arbor, we will be unable to offer free wireless internet to people who<br>register after the close of on-line registration. We will also be no<br>longer able to accept registration for the pre-conference workshops<br>after the close of online registration. [...]','Final reminder: on-line registration for TEI Conference closes tonight at 0000 UTC.','Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:23:36 -0600')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=72430">Final reminder: on-line registration for TEI Conference closes tonight at 0000 UTC.</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Dan O'Donnell</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:23:36 -0600</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">42 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="15"></a><a href="#15">floatingtext vs quote</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('All,<br><br>Having just combed through the archived listserv to read some impassioned<br>and learned arguments about the distinction between <q> and <quote> , it is<br>with reluctance that I ask for a gloss of the paragraph that ends P5\'s<br>"4.3.2 Floating Texts": "The <floatingText> element should only be used for<br>complete texts which form a part of the text being encoded. Where a<br>character in one narrative quotes from some other text or narrative, fully<br>or in part, the <quote> element discussed in 3.3.3. Quotation should be<br>used instead." [...]','floatingtext vs quote','Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:59:49 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=21625">floatingtext vs quote</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Brett Barney</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:59:49 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">107 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('This is a problem to be managed rather than solved, and the best you<br>can hope for is consistency within your own environment.<br><br>My hunch is that the distinction between <quote> and <floatingText><br>has less to do with the completeness of what is inside those tags than<br>with the distance, intended by the author or perceived by the reader,<br>between the tagged content and the main direction of the narrative.<br>Call it the \'degree of externality\'. In some cases --the letter is the<br>prime example--there are clear markers of externality that set the<br>document apart. But there are deep marshes [...]','Re: floatingtext vs quote','Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:17:48 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=22696">Re: floatingtext vs quote</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Martin Mueller</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:17:48 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">151 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Brett Barney wrote:<br>> Having just combed through the archived listserv to read some<br>> impassioned and learned arguments about the distinction between <q> and<br>> <quote> , it is with reluctance that I ask for a gloss of the paragraph<br>> that ends P5\'s "4.3.2 Floating Texts": "The <floatingText> element<br>> should only be used for complete texts which form a part of the text<br>> being encoded. Where a character in one narrative quotes from some other<br>> text or narrative, fully or in part, the <quote> element discussed in<br>> 3.3.3. Quotation should be used instead."<br>><br> [...]','Re: floatingtext vs quote','Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:13:15 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=23517">Re: floatingtext vs quote</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">James Cummings</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:13:15 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">88 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Brett,<br><br>If you have access to Women Writers Online, take a look at Lady Eleanor<br>Davies\' The Word of<br>God<http://textbase.wwp.brown.edu/WWO/php/wAll.php?doc=davies.wordofgod.html>-<br>if you scroll down a little bit you\'ll see she includes right in the<br>middle of her text the entire text of her husband\'s confession, with its own<br>title. That\'s what I would call a floating text. [...]','Re: floatingtext vs quote','Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:14:28 -0700')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=25739">Re: floatingtext vs quote</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Paul Caton</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:14:28 -0700</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">45 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Brett,<br><br>To tell the truth, I haven\'t reviewed P5\'s paragraph on Floating Texts<br>yet, but I can think of one good reason why it does matter whether the<br>text is complete. In some Asian philosophical texts-specifically in the<br>Tibetan canon-an entire text may be nested within a commentary that<br>proceeds paragraph by paragraph, verse by verse, or even line by line,<br>through the whole, nested text. (The whole, nested text is called the<br>"root text"). It matters a lot within the Tibetan commentarial tradition<br>that the earlier, whole text be included and nested within the<br>commentary. [...]','Re: floatingtext vs quote','Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:19:46 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=26308">Re: floatingtext vs quote</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Patrik, Linda</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:19:46 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">384 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi,<br><br>At 01:19 PM 10/9/2009, Linda wrote:<br>>To tell the truth, I havent reviewed P5s<br>>paragraph on Floating Texts yet, but I can think<br>>of one good reason why it does matter whether<br>>the text is complete. In some Asian<br>>philosophical textsspecifically in the Tibetan<br>>canonan entire text may be nested within a<br>>commentary that proceeds paragraph by paragraph,<br>>verse by verse, or even line by line, through<br>>the whole, nested text. (The whole, nested text<br>>is called the root text). It matters a lot<br>>within the Tibetan commentarial tradition that<br>>the earlier, whole text be included and nested within [...]','Re: floatingtext vs quote','Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:57:30 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=27097">Re: floatingtext vs quote</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wendell Piez</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:57:30 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">70 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('At 02:57 PM 10/9/2009, I wrote:<br>>Whether floatingText or quote is the right element for texts or text<br>>fragments being commented on, may still depend. I concur with<br>>others\' advice. Being consistent is more important than being<br>>"right" about this: the computer doesn\'t care what you name things,<br>>as long as the important distinctions are made; and future users are<br>>going to have to contend with the text itself in any case. [...]','Re: floatingtext vs quote','Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:20:38 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=31747">Re: floatingtext vs quote</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wendell Piez</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:20:38 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">36 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Thanks, everyone, for the interesting and helpful responses. On the one<br>hand, I take Wendell\'s point (if I understand it aright) that in this case<br>the question of which tag to use isn\'t best approached from the perspective<br>of computer processing. On the other hand, I am a little troubled by what<br>is coming more and more to seem a casualness in the guidelines themselves<br>on this point. I\'ll get by just fine, I know, if I decide to use<br><floatingText> for even those embedded texts that are actually excerpts.<br>But I will also remember that the guidelines say I [...]','Re: floatingtext vs quote','Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:07:46 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=34891">Re: floatingtext vs quote</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Brett Barney</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:07:46 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">96 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Well, the Guidelines are (as the name suggests) only Guidelines rather<br>than normative statements. But they do try to avoid "casualness" and the<br>whole of this discussion has rather confirmed my slight anxieties about<br>the wisdom of introducing this new fangled <floatingText> element<br>without which we had been managing quite well for quite a long time. [...]','Re: floatingtext vs quote','Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:09:34 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=35664">Re: floatingtext vs quote</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Lou Burnard</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:09:34 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">122 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi,<br><br>At 05:09 PM 10/12/2009, Lou wrote:<br>>Well, the Guidelines are (as the name suggests) only Guidelines<br>>rather than normative statements. But they do try to avoid<br>>"casualness" and the whole of this discussion has rather confirmed<br>>my slight anxieties about the wisdom of introducing this new fangled<br>><floatingText> element without which we had been managing quite well<br>>for quite a long time. [...]','Re: floatingtext vs quote','Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:14:05 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=38278">Re: floatingtext vs quote</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wendell Piez</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:14:05 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">90 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Wendell Piez wrote:<br><br>> "divs never float" is a theoretical statement that proposes a definition of a<br>> div as something that does not float; by this theory, something that does<br>> float is not a div.<br><br>I can safely say that the \'divs never float\' theory is the one that<br>has met the greatest resistance amongst the 60 or so taggers I\'ve<br>supervised over the past dozen years--and rightly so. My own<br>counter-theory is that TEI does indeed have floating divs,<br>i.e. embedded objects with internal structure. They\'re called <figure>,<br><lg>, <list>, <table>, and [...]','Re: floatingtext vs quote','Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:29:08 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=40214">Re: floatingtext vs quote</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Paul F. Schaffner</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:29:08 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">61 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="16"></a><a href="#16">Homogeneity of Encoding</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('I\'ve been thinking and looking at how we can ensure the ongoing<br>homogeneity of encoding of our texts.<br><br>Traditionally we\'ve used a written document as our standard with an<br>accompanying schematron schema which catches a subset of mistakes we\'ve<br>previously caught manually (also a subset of things that have been shown<br>to expose weaknesses in our stylesheets). [...]','Homogeneity of Encoding','Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:47:26 +1300')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=12534">Homogeneity of Encoding</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">stuart yeates</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:47:26 +1300</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">48 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('On 5 Oct 2009, at 20:47, stuart yeates wrote:<br><br>> with our hand-curated schematron schema. Unfortunately, the further<br>> I go<br>> down this road, the more it looks like what I\'m really building is a<br>> general-purpose schematon schema generator which takes a collection of<br>> XML files and generates a schematron schema which validates them and<br>> "others like them." [...]','Re: Homogeneity of Encoding','Mon, 5 Oct 2009 20:55:46 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=13086">Re: Homogeneity of Encoding</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 5 Oct 2009 20:55:46 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">43 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Not sure I\'ve exactly figured out which yak you\'re shaving, but have<br>you heard of examplotron? (http://examplotron.org/)','Re: Homogeneity of Encoding','Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:56:44 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=13695">Re: Homogeneity of Encoding</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:56:44 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">14 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Sebastian Rahtz wrote:<br><br>> isn\'t this a bit like the "oddbyexample" utility I wrote earlier this<br>> year? that generates a very tight TEI subset schema which validates<br>> the corpus of files you give it.<br><br>I was unaware of this, but it does look interesting. Am I right in<br>thinking that this can\'t make distinctions that can\'t be made in, say,<br>Roma? Most of the rules I want can\'t be made in Roma. [...]','Re: Homogeneity of Encoding','Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:26:35 +1300')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=13987">Re: Homogeneity of Encoding</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">stuart yeates</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:26:35 +1300</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">56 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('On 5 Oct 2009, at 23:26, stuart yeates wrote:<br><br>>> isn\'t this a bit like the "oddbyexample" utility I wrote earlier this<br>>> year? that generates a very tight TEI subset schema which validates<br>>> the corpus of files you give it.<br>><br>> I was unaware of this, but it does look interesting.<br><br>that is ironic, as I wrote it mainly for you when you asked about<br>something<br>similar earlier this year :-} [...]','Re: Homogeneity of Encoding','Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:43:10 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=14604">Re: Homogeneity of Encoding</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:43:10 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">66 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('> "list/@type is one of \'simple\' \'gloss\' or \'complex\'"<br>> "name has a @type"<br>> "xml:lang is one of \'en\' \'mi\' \'rar\'"<br>> "there are no p/@n"<br>> "pb/@n contains only Arabic numerals"<br><br>These are all standard customization rules that should be written<br>into your ODD, from which you should generate a RELAX NG schema for<br>automated validation. (Or W3C XML Schema or DTD if for some reason<br>you really can\'t use a tool that uses RELAX NG.) To generate a schema<br>from an ODD, you can use roma, Roma, or Vesta. [...]','Re: Homogeneity of Encoding','Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:53:28 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=15258">Re: Homogeneity of Encoding</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:53:28 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">69 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA1<br><br>Hi,<br><br>if my knowledge about schemas is deep enough:<br><br>> I\'m interested in rules such as:<br>><br>> "list/@type is one of \'simple\' \'gloss\' or \'complex\'"<br>> "note/list/@type is \'simple\'"<br>> "name has a @type"<br>> "figure contains a single graphic"<br>> "xml:lang is one of \'en\' \'mi\' \'rar\'"<br>> "there are no p/@n"<br>> "pb/@n contains only Arabic numerals"<br>> "there is no pb/text()"<br>> "there is no normalize-space(choice/text())" [...]','Re: Homogeneity of Encoding','Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:55:05 +0200')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=24943">Re: Homogeneity of Encoding</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Torsten Schassan</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:55:05 +0200</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">59 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="17"></a><a href="#17">In witness, why not repository and idno ?</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Good evening TextEncodersInitiate,<br><br>We\'ve got a problem with this kind of pages<br>http://elec.enc.sorbonne.fr/cartulaires/laroche/page447/<br>It\'s an edition of charters. My question is about lines like that<br><br>(Archiv. de l\'Emp., LL. 1157. — Cartul. de Saint-Denis, p. 570.)<br><br>It should be the manuscript witness used to edit the transcription.<br>There are sometimes more witnesses, and maybe notes about variants and<br>lessons from those, so that the <witness> could be a good idea.<br>From our digitization company and our scripts, we get something a bit<br>like that : [...]','In witness, why not repository and idno ?','Sat, 3 Oct 2009 02:07:12 +0200')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=5487">In witness, why not repository and idno ?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">"Frédéric Glorieux (École nationale des </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sat, 3 Oct 2009 02:07:12 +0200</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">73 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi Frederic (I think this is a discussion of interest to others on the<br>TEI-L list, so I take the liberty of moving it there)<br><br>Frédéric Glorieux (École nationale des chartes) wrote:<br><br>> In this paper edition, there\'s an analysis, and a list of witnesses<br>> of the act. Yes, it is a bibliographic list, for now ; but one day,<br>> someone will find time to edit the acts, and then the list of<br>> “witnesses” will be used to refer some variants. Of course, there\'s no<br>> problem to refer to a listBibl/bibl with some targets and @xml:id. [...]','Re: In witness, why not repository and idno ?','Sun, 4 Oct 2009 23:01:41 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=9909">Re: In witness, why not repository and idno ?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Lou Burnard</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sun, 4 Oct 2009 23:01:41 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">155 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('element in TEI. This is<br>probably wise, abstract is perhaps more for writing than encoding.<br><argument> definition seems very specific « A formal list or prose<br>description of the topics addressed by a subdivision of a text »,<br>there\'s an example coming from a novel. To my opinion, transposed in<br>other context, <argument> could work correctly as an <abstract>. For<br>others here, it was tag abuse, they propose to use things like <div<br>type="summary|abstract|...">. To my opinion, this direction is perhaps<br>TEI, but not expressive XML. We can also say that the simplest schema is<br>only with two elements and one attribute <element name="">, <attribute<br>name="">, so that meaning is now in attribute values. Why then have 500<br>TEI names if important distinctions for us are in attribute values only<br>? I ask for a right of metaphor on TEI tags, in the limit that the local<br>interpretation is accorded to the global direction of guidelines.','Re: In witness, why not repository and idno ?','Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:43:11 +0200')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=10684">Re: In witness, why not repository and idno ?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">"Frédéric Glorieux (École nationale des </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:43:11 +0200</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">252 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi all,<br><br>After more investigations in our corpora, we discovered lots of “idno”<br>for manuscripts witnesses with parts in superscript. For good reasons<br><idno> only allow text content, so that we will use <num type="idno"><br>for our traditional identifiers. <num> is already allowed in <witness>.<br>For <repository>, we will use <orgName type="repository">, also allowed.<br><br>>>> <num type="idno"> is not a big problem for<br>>>> us. [...]','Re: In witness, why not repository and idno ?','Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:45:19 +0200')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=16023">Re: In witness, why not repository and idno ?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">"Frédéric Glorieux (École nationale des </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:45:19 +0200</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">29 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Frédéric Glorieux (École nationale des chartes) wrote:<br>> Hi all,<br>><br>> After more investigations in our corpora, we discovered lots of “idno”<br>> for manuscripts witnesses with parts in superscript. For good reasons<br>> <idno> only allow text content, so that we will use <num type="idno"><br>> for our traditional identifiers. <num> is already allowed in <witness>. [...]','Re: In witness, why not repository and idno ?','Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:38:14 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=16867">Re: In witness, why not repository and idno ?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Lou</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:38:14 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">45 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi Lou,<br><br>Thanks a lot for your attention and suggestions that will make our<br>choices stronger.<br><br>>> For <repository>, we will use <orgName type="repository">, also allowed.<br>>><br>><br>> Is this appropriate? An <org> (and therefore an <orgName>) is not<br>> usually restricted to a single physical place, whereas a repository very<br>> definitely is.<br><br>I had the same hesitation between two mails on this list. L\'École des<br>chartes is a good place in France to ask for the question (but perhaps<br>not to have one and only one answer). Les “Archives Nationales”, with<br>buildings in Fontainebleau and Paris, and [...]','Re: In witness, why not repository and idno ?','Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:26:36 +0200')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=18842">Re: In witness, why not repository and idno ?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">"Frédéric Glorieux (École nationale des </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:26:36 +0200</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">89 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="18"></a><a href="#18">Last chance for early registration</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi all,<br><br>This is the last 24 hour period before the early registration period<br>ends. We haven\'t nailed down the precise time (I\'ll be travelling and<br>need to find an internet connection), but the period closes on Saturday<br>10 October. After that time, prices go up somewhat because we need to<br>cover the additional costs of late orders and the like. [...]','Last chance for early registration','Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:47:02 -0600')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=27962">Last chance for early registration</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Daniel Paul O'Donnell</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:47:02 -0600</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">37 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="19"></a><a href="#19">Libraries SIG Meeting at TEI Members' Meeting in Ann Arbor</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi all,<br><br>The Libraries Special Interest Group will convene as part of the<br>annual TEI Members\' Meeting, which will take place November 9-14, 2009<br>in Ann Arbor, Michigan (http://www.lib.umich.edu/spo/teimeeting09/).<br><br>The SIG is scheduled for Saturday, November 14th from 10:00 am to<br>12:00 pm in the Faculty Exploratory, Room<br>209, in the Hatcher Graduate Library North.<br><br>Chris Ruotolo will be convening the Libraries SIG this year on Kevin<br>Hawkin\'s and my behalf (thanks Chris!).<br>An agenda for the meeting has been drafted, but we would like to hear<br>from those of you<br>participating in the SIG this year. Please review the [...]','Libraries SIG Meeting at TEI Members\' Meeting in Ann Arbor','Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:21:08 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=29561">Libraries SIG Meeting at TEI Members' Meeting in Ann Arbor</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Michelle Dalmau</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:21:08 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">41 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="20"></a><a href="#20">Marking up newspapers and multiple hierarchies</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi all,<br><br>I have a question for more experienced heads than mine.<br><br>I\'ve been recently discussing newspaper markup with a number of people.<br>As with many types of documents you end up with a multiple hierarchy<br>problem between page and rhetorical structure. Normally, we privilege<br>rhetoric and use milestones for pages.<br><br>In the case of newspapers, however, I\'m really wondering if in fact the<br>page should not be the privileged hierarchy: which page an article<br>appears on is obviously very important, and the way newspapers divide<br>stories up ("see page 3") suggests that they too see the page as the<br> [...]','Marking up newspapers and multiple hierarchies','Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:45:14 -0600')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=52083">Marking up newspapers and multiple hierarchies</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Dan O'Donnell</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:45:14 -0600</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">44 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Dan,<br><br>The National Newspaper Digitization Program ( http://www.loc.gov/ndnp/ )<br>in the US, which has funded digitization programs in all US states, uses<br>ALTO markup, whose hierarchy is based on the page structure. According<br>to http://www.dlib.org/dlib/january08/klijn/01klijn.html , ALTO is also<br>being used by the National Library of Australia and the Bibliothèque<br>nationale de France.<br><br>Kevin<br><br>Dan O\'Donnell wrote:<br>> Hi all,<br>><br>> I have a question for more experienced heads than mine.<br>><br>> I\'ve been recently discussing newspaper markup with a number of people.<br>> As with many types of documents you end up with a multiple hierarchy<br>> [...]','Re: Marking up newspapers and multiple hierarchies','Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:59:36 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=53749">Re: Marking up newspapers and multiple hierarchies</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Kevin Hawkins</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:59:36 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">42 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="21"></a><a href="#21">nxml-mode & Emacs23 on Debian</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Is there anyone running plain Debian who has succeeded in setting up<br>nxml-mode with Emacs23? In Windows, I was able to just copy the<br>nxml-mode file from Emacs22 to Emacs23 and it worked fine. But the<br>Debian sources seem to indicate that nxml-mode for Emacs23 is not<br>ready yet.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Chuck','nxml-mode & Emacs23 on Debian','Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:18:21 +0900')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=55235">nxml-mode & Emacs23 on Debian</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Charles Muller</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:18:21 +0900</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">37 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Isn\'t it in the base distribution now?<br><br>http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu-emacs/2009-07/msg00000.html<br><br>On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 06:18:21PM +0900, Charles Muller wrote:<br>> Is there anyone running plain Debian who has succeeded in setting up<br>> nxml-mode with Emacs23? In Windows, I was able to just copy the<br>> nxml-mode file from Emacs22 to Emacs23 and it worked fine. But the<br>> Debian sources seem to indicate that nxml-mode for Emacs23 is not<br>> ready yet.<br>><br>> Regards,<br>><br>> Chuck<br>><br>> -------------------<br>><br>> A. Charles Muller<br>><br>> University of Tokyo<br>> Graduate School of Humanities and Sociology, Faculty [...]','Re: nxml-mode & Emacs23 on Debian','Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:31:45 +0200')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=55740">Re: nxml-mode & Emacs23 on Debian</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Nicolas Legrand</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:31:45 +0200</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">45 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('At Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:18:21 +0900,<br>Charles Muller wrote:<br>><br>> Is there anyone running plain Debian who has succeeded in setting up<br>> nxml-mode with Emacs23? In Windows, I was able to just copy the<br>> nxml-mode file from Emacs22 to Emacs23 and it worked fine. But the<br>> Debian sources seem to indicate that nxml-mode for Emacs23 is not<br>> ready yet.<br>><br>On my Debian unstable box it\'s set up fine. There is an nxml-mode<br>package in Debian which depends on emacs22 or emacs21. When upgrading<br>to emacs23 from Debian you should remove the nxml-mode<br>package. [...]','Re: nxml-mode & Emacs23 on Debian','Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:04:59 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=56662">Re: nxml-mode & Emacs23 on Debian</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Richard Lewis</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:04:59 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">42 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Nicolas Legrand wrote:<br><br>> Isn\'t it in the base distribution now?<br>><br>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu-emacs/2009-07/msg00000.html<br><br>Sorry for my lack of clarity. I wasn\'t talking about the availability<br>of Emacs 23. I was talking about the availability of nxml-mode for<br>Emacs23. When I try to install nxml-mode in Emacs23 via apt, I get an<br>error message, complaining of the wrong version of Emacs. [...]','Re: nxml-mode & Emacs23 on Debian','Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:54:18 +0900')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=57467">Re: nxml-mode & Emacs23 on Debian</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Charles Muller</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:54:18 +0900</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">44 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 09:54:18PM +0900, Charles Muller wrote:<br>> Nicolas Legrand wrote:<br>><br>> >Isn\'t it in the base distribution now?<br>> ><br>> >http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu-emacs/2009-07/msg00000.html<br>><br>> Sorry for my lack of clarity. I wasn\'t talking about the<br>> availability of Emacs 23. I was talking about the availability of<br>> nxml-mode for Emacs23. When I try to install nxml-mode in Emacs23<br>> via apt, I get an error message, complaining of the wrong version of<br>> Emacs. [...]','Re: nxml-mode & Emacs23 on Debian','Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:37:15 +0200')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=58773">Re: nxml-mode & Emacs23 on Debian</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Nicolas Legrand</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:37:15 +0200</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">27 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Nicolas Legrand wrote:<br><br>> I have some lack of clarity to. Since version 23 of Emacs nxml-mode is<br>> IN Emacs, no need to install it.<br><br>Well I\'ll be darned. It seems this is true.<br><br>Thank you for pointing this out!<br><br>Chuck','Re: nxml-mode & Emacs23 on Debian','Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:15:07 +0900')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=60182">Re: nxml-mode & Emacs23 on Debian</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Charles Muller</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:15:07 +0900</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">39 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="22"></a><a href="#22">p4 to p5 xsl transition headaches</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Dear TEI-ers<br><br>OK, I\'m a few years behind, I know, but I finally began to make the<br>attempt, this week, to begin working with P5 instead of P4. But after<br>an exasperating few days of utter failure in getting anything at all<br>to work with my style sheets, I am just about ready to give up and<br>just forget about P5 altogether. [...]','p4 to p5 xsl transition headaches','Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:53:42 +0900')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=74030">p4 to p5 xsl transition headaches</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Charles Muller</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:53:42 +0900</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">99 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('On 31 Oct 2009, at 12:53, Charles Muller wrote:<br><br>> Of course P5 based on an out-of-the box template in oXygen comes<br>> working wonderfully with the TEI style sheets. But I am unable, with<br>> these, to figure out how to change the most elementary template<br>> settings (like, how can I stop having "A TEI Project" appear at the<br>> top of every document? Or where can I change the attributes for<br>> paragraphs, etc., to do indents, blockquotes, etc.?).<br>sorry its not very clearly explained. [...]','Re: p4 to p5 xsl transition headaches','Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:05:16 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=74566">Re: p4 to p5 xsl transition headaches</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:05:16 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">101 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="23"></a><a href="#23">Phonemic/Phonetic markup</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi all,<br>I am a little puzzled (and hope to receive enlightenment :) about the best<br>way of encoding phonemic (and possibly phonetic) information in a text<br>transcription. I didn\'t find much in the Guidelines, only some reference<br>to use the Unicode IPA characters in chapters 6 Verse&#8194;and 8<br>Transcriptions of Speech, plus the use of feature structures to record<br>phonetic matrices. Correct me if I\'m missing something. [...]','Phonemic/Phonetic markup','Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:57:10 +0200')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=28530">Phonemic/Phonetic markup</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Roberto Rosselli Del Turco</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:57:10 +0200</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">46 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('I\'d have said that feature structures are the way to do this Roberto. Don\'t know about what an implementation would look like, but they seem designed for this. (and also they are my favorite element after choice).','Re: Phonemic/Phonetic markup','Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:19:42 -0600')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=29167">Re: Phonemic/Phonetic markup</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">O'Donnell, Dan</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:19:42 -0600</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">60 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Il giorno sab, 10/10/2009 alle 12.19 -0600, O\'Donnell, Dan ha scritto:<br>> I\'d have said that feature structures are the way to do this Roberto. Don\'t know about what an implementation would look like, but they seem designed for this. (and also they are my favorite element after choice).<br><br>Hmmm, care to elaborate on that? Admittedly I have no experience with<br>fs, the examples quoted in the guidelines looks too complex for my<br>needs, and actually deal with something else (I don\'t need a full<br>matrix-based analysis of phonemes). I see how it could be used for this<br>purpose, but [...]','Re: Phonemic/Phonetic markup','Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:28:56 +0200')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=30432">Re: Phonemic/Phonetic markup</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Roberto Rosselli Del Turco</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:28:56 +0200</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">68 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="24"></a><a href="#24">position available in digital Sanskrit library project</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Dear Colleagues,<br><br>Please bring the following to the attention of qualified applicants:<br><br>Brown University seeks a post-doctoral research associate or doctoral<br>research assistant to to work in a digital Sanskrit library project.<br>The position requires advanced training in Sanskrit, academic research<br>skills, and competence in working with XML and TeX.<br><br>The Sanskrit Library is a collaborative project to make the heritage<br>texts of India accessible on the web. The project is building a<br>digital Sanskrit library by integrating texts, linguistic software,<br>and digital Sanskrit lexical sources. This year the project is making<br>digital images of manuscripts of the Mahabharata and [...]','position available in digital Sanskrit library project','Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:19:45 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=68480">position available in digital Sanskrit library project</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Elli Mylonas</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:19:45 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">58 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="25"></a><a href="#25">Registration followup</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('One brief follow-up on conference registration. We have discovered that<br>it will probably not be possible to offer wireless access to conference<br>goers who fail to sign up by October 31st. I understand this has to do<br>with how usernames and passwords are generated and the workload involved<br>with the University\'s IT department.<br><br>So let me again encourage you to register for the conference on time if<br>you have not already done so: http://www.tei-shop.org/ [...]','Registration followup','Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:01:23 -0600')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=58106">Registration followup</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Daniel Paul O'Donnell</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:01:23 -0600</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">41 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="26"></a><a href="#26">Research positions available at Unifob AKSIS in Bergen, Norway</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Research positions available at Unifob AKSIS in Bergen, Norway<br><br>Unifob (www.unifob.uib.no <http://www.unifob.uib.no/> ) is a research<br>company with over 500 research staff from more than 30 nations and a<br>turnover of NOK 450 million (ca. 50 million Euro). Unifob¹s majority owner<br>is the University of Bergen. Unifob conducts R&D in the areas of health,<br>language and information technology, marine biology, environment, climate,<br>petroleum, and the social sciences. [...]','Research positions available at Unifob AKSIS in Bergen, Norway','Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:29:57 +0200')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=49783">Research positions available at Unifob AKSIS in Bergen, Norway</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tone Merete Bruvik</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:29:57 +0200</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">68 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="27"></a><a href="#27">Second last reminder: online registration for the TEI conference closes November 1, 0000 UTC.</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi all,<br><br>A reminder that on-line registration for the TEI conference will be<br>closing at midnight UTC on November 1, 2009. While we will process<br>registration after this date in person at the conference site, it will<br>be almost certainly impossible to provide free wireless at the<br>conference site to participants who register after the close of on-line<br>registration. [...]','Second last reminder: online registration for the TEI conference closes November 1, 0000 UTC.','Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:51:43 -0600')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=67840">Second last reminder: online registration for the TEI conference closes November 1, 0000 UTC.</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Dan O'Donnell</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:51:43 -0600</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">42 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="28"></a><a href="#28">Seeking example TEI files for performance texts</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hello list,<br><br>I have a colleague who is interested in using the TEI (particularly<br>the tags from chapter 7, "Performance Texts") to encode TV and film<br>scripts, in some amount of detail. Can anyone on the list point me to<br>(or send me off-list) examples of some existing files? I looked<br>through the projects listed on the TEI site<br>(http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Projects/) but didn\'t see anything<br>relevant. [...]','Seeking example TEI files for performance texts','Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:06:19 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=59545">Seeking example TEI files for performance texts</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Dot Porter</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:06:19 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">31 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="29"></a><a href="#29">Serge Heiden new convenor of TEI Tools SIG</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('TEI TOOLS SIG<br><br>Serge Heiden of ENS-LSH (Lyon) has kindly agreed to take over from Matt<br>Zimmerman as convenor of the TEI Tools SIG, and is proposing to arrange<br>a meeting of interested parties at the forthcoming Members Meeting in<br>Ann Arbor this November, as well as to set up a new mailing list. [...]','Serge Heiden new convenor of TEI Tools SIG','Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:12:35 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=31226">Serge Heiden new convenor of TEI Tools SIG</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Susan Schreibman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:12:35 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">42 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Thank you very much Susan.<br><br>The first thing we have to do for the Tools SIG is to switch<br>from the old NYU based mailing list :<br>http://lists.nyu.edu/read/?forum=tei-presentation<br>(Matt Zimmerman asked us to do that)<br>to the new list at Brown :<br>http://listserv.brown.edu/?A0=tei-tools-sig<br>(thanks to Syd Bauman)<br>I invite especially all active subscribers to \'tei-presentation\'<br>to subscribe to [log in to unmask] from now.<br>If the webmaster of http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/SIG/Tools/<br>and http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/SIG/ could update the links<br>this would be nice. We have to do the same on the TEI wiki. [...]','Re: Serge Heiden new convenor of TEI Tools SIG','Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:16:45 +0200')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=32402">Re: Serge Heiden new convenor of TEI Tools SIG</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Serge Heiden</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:16:45 +0200</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">77 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="30"></a><a href="#30">Strategies for encoding printed forms?</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('For anyone who has encoded a printed (typeset) form containing blanks<br>that were then filled in by hand--for example, a template for a legal<br>contract--I\'d be interested in hearing your convention for this.<br><br>I\'m thinking along the lines of a simple<br><br><seg type="form_blank"><add hand="some_value">John Doe</add></seg><br><br>but wonder if there\'s a better choice. <space/> as an indicator of an<br>intentional blank isn\'t a real option as it can\'t contain anything. Any<br>solution also needs to be able to capture form blanks that were not<br>filled in (empty <seg type="form_blank"/> for example). [...]','Strategies for encoding printed forms?','Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:28:45 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=33240">Strategies for encoding printed forms?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">David Sewell</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:28:45 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">31 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi, David, as you know we work with a very limited tag set, so<br>may border on abuse at times. And we tend also to ignore<br>manuscript additions to our printed books, so we are mostly<br>in a position of capturing (or not capturing) only the form<br>itself, not the bits that are filled in. I vacillated for a<br>while (and still do), but decided in the end that the \'blanks\'<br>could be rationalized as \'things not captured\' and therefore<br>fit candidates for <gap/>. This had the large advantage of<br>allowing @extent (or @unit + @quantity). So we usually resort<br> [...]','Re: Strategies for encoding printed forms?','Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:13:20 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=34110">Re: Strategies for encoding printed forms?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Paul F. Schaffner</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:13:20 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">77 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('The trouble with this is that you can\'t then distinguish between <gap/>s<br>that indicate where you\'ve not transcribed something and <gap/>s where<br>there is nothing actually to transcribe.<br><br>Your rationalisation that what you are not transcribing is the blanks<br>is ingenious, not to say ingenuous, but surely, by definition, the<br>blanks are not there? If they *are* there, then they should be<br>represented by <space/> elements... [...]','Re: Strategies for encoding printed forms?','Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:55:53 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=36231">Re: Strategies for encoding printed forms?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Lou Burnard</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:55:53 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">98 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('I grant most of the nits: else I wouldn\'t have been so dubious<br>about doing what I do.<br><br>However:<br><br>On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, Lou Burnard wrote:<br><br>> The trouble with this is that you can\'t then distinguish between <gap/>s<br>> that indicate where you\'ve not transcribed something and <gap/>s where there<br>> is nothing actually to transcribe. [...]','Re: Strategies for encoding printed forms?','Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:48:40 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=36896">Re: Strategies for encoding printed forms?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Paul F. Schaffner</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:48:40 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">56 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('For printed forms, e.g. tax reporting forms, which consist of several<br>pages our encoding convention is to transcribe and encode the<br>handwritten text and not include the printed text (or irrelevant/later<br>scribes).<br>Here\'s an example of what a page in these forms looks like:<br><br>http://www.emunch.no/tei-mm-2008/No-MM_N3639-01-02.jpg<br><br>Our decision not to transcribe the text of the form, rests partly upon<br>the choice to render all transcriptions in parallell with the<br>facsimiles, and partly upon the complicated textual structure of such<br>forms: We deliberately avoid the labouring task of encoding and<br>rendering the forms. With the facsimiles present it\'s possible both to<br>see [...]','Re: Strategies for encoding printed forms?','Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:01:37 +0200')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=48849">Re: Strategies for encoding printed forms?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Hilde Bøe</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:01:37 +0200</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">100 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="31"></a><a href="#31">tagging akkadian determinatives</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi,<br><br>I\'m right now creating a digital edition of an Akkadian cuneiform text<br>in TEI. The text is in transliteration, so in latin alphabet and not<br>in unicode cuneiform. During the process of tagging I got confronted<br>with the problem of what to do with Akkadian determinatives. This<br>means, an orthographic sign, which was not pronounced, but indicated<br>the type of the object that follows. For example an Akkadian text<br>would have the name of the god EA written DINGIR.E.A, but pronounced<br>just EA. [...]','tagging akkadian determinatives','Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:17:39 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=65431">tagging akkadian determinatives</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Jacobo Myerston</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:17:39 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">40 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Jacobo Myerston wrote:<br>> Hi,<br>><br>> I\'m right now creating a digital edition of an Akkadian cuneiform text<br>> in TEI. The text is in transliteration, so in latin alphabet and not<br>> in unicode cuneiform. During the process of tagging I got confronted<br>> with the problem of what to do with Akkadian determinatives. This<br>> means, an orthographic sign, which was not pronounced, but indicated<br>> the type of the object that follows. For example an Akkadian text<br>> would have the name of the god EA written DINGIR.E.A, but pronounced<br>> just EA.<br>><br>> The [...]','Re: tagging akkadian determinatives','Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:36:09 +1300')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=66134">Re: tagging akkadian determinatives</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">stuart yeates</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:36:09 +1300</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">57 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('You might be interested in some or all of the activity of which:<br><br>http://cdl.museum.upenn.edu/doc/TEI/<br><br>is a part. A good sample of the TEI we produce, styled with CSS, is:<br><br>http://cdl.museum.upenn.edu/hbtin/views/tei/P296639.xml<br><br>If you\'d like to chat further about this we should probably move the discussion<br>off-list.<br><br>Steve<br><br>Quoting stuart yeates <[log in to unmask]>:<br><br>> Jacobo Myerston wrote:<br>> > Hi,<br>> ><br>> > I\'m right now creating a digital edition of an Akkadian cuneiform text<br>> > in TEI. The text is in transliteration, so in latin alphabet and not<br>> > in unicode cuneiform. During the process of tagging I got [...]','Re: tagging akkadian determinatives','Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:26:39 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=66936">Re: tagging akkadian determinatives</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Steve Tinney</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:26:39 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">75 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="32"></a><a href="#32">TEI-MARC conversion</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('We are working on a project that will be encoding Indic manuscripts in<br>P5, but one end format will be MARC, as one library whose manuscripts<br>are being digitized for this project would like to ingest them into<br>its catalog.<br><br>We\'ve looked about but don\'t seem to be able to locate any work on TEI-<br>>MARC conversion, or to identify any scripts or software. [...]','TEI-MARC conversion','Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:06:09 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=60624">TEI-MARC conversion</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Elli Mylonas</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:06:09 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">26 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi Elli. I\'m almost certainly going to have to do this exact thing<br>soon, so I\'d be interested to know what you find out. I\'m going the<br>other direction first (to EpiDoc) with APIS, which uses a MARC-<br>inspired data format, so I have one or two crosswalking artifacts you<br>might be interested in. [...]','Re: TEI-MARC conversion','Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:22:59 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=61172">Re: TEI-MARC conversion</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Hugh Cayless</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:22:59 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">40 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Members of the SIG on Libraries have been working to produce a revised<br>version of http://www.diglib.org/standards/tei.htm . The new version so far<br>is at<br><br>http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries<br><br>You\'ll see that the new version provides mappings of header elements to MARC<br>elements, both for a catalog record of the source document and of the TEI<br>document.<br><br>Black Mesa Technologies (thank you Michael!) has volunteered some labor to<br>produce stylesheets that go from MARC to these best practices and from these<br>best practices to MARC, so you might want for these to be produced.<br>Alternatively, I\'m sure some libraries that have done similar work [...]','Re: TEI-MARC conversion','Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:34:44 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=61655">Re: TEI-MARC conversion</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Kevin Hawkins</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:34:44 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">27 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA1<br><br>Hi,<br><br>> Members of the SIG on Libraries have been working to produce a revised<br>> version of http://www.diglib.org/standards/tei.htm . The new version so far<br>> is at<br><br>from this page a reference points to<br>http://purl.oclc.org/NET/teiinlibraries. Is what should be available<br>there in fact the second document mentioned here?<br><br>> http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries<br><br>> You\'ll see that the new version provides mappings of header elements to MARC<br>> elements, both for a catalog record of the source document and of the TEI<br>> document. [...]','Re: TEI-MARC conversion','Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:03:49 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=63345">Re: TEI-MARC conversion</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Torsten Schassan</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:03:49 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">63 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('>> Members of the SIG on Libraries have been working to produce a revised<br>>> version of http://www.diglib.org/standards/tei.htm . The new version so far<br>>> is at<br>><br>> from this page a reference points to<br>> http://purl.oclc.org/NET/teiinlibraries. Is what should be available<br>> there in fact the second document mentioned here?<br>><br>>> http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries<br><br>I should have clarified this a bit.<br>http://purl.oclc.org/NET/teiinlibraries is the canonical URL for this<br>document; however, the working version is<br>http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries .<br>Neither are finalized. There will be an announcement on this list when<br>that happens. [...]','Re: TEI-MARC conversion','Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:07:31 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=69405">Re: TEI-MARC conversion</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Kevin Hawkins</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:07:31 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">49 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('>I believe that OAI-PMH does not define a metadata vocabulary. Most<br>>people use Dublin Core. So if you can find a TEI-to-DC mapping, you<br>>will probably get most of what you need.<br><br>Just to confirm and specify what Kevin wrote. OAI-PMH is, as the name itself says, a protocol for exchanging metadata, therefore it can be used (in theory) with whatever metadata schema you want (expressed or at least embedded in XML). As common denominator, OAI-PMH specs asks that every data provider should be at least able of providing Dublin Core metadata and tell what others metadata formats are available. [...]','Re: TEI-MARC conversion','Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:23:46 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=71648">Re: TEI-MARC conversion</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive"><a href="/cgi-bin/wa?LOGON=A1%3Dind0910%26L%3DTEI-L" target="_parent" >[log in to unmask]</a></p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:23:46 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">27 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="33"></a><a href="#33">Tool for adding tags and comments</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('I\'d like to ask the list if somebody here knows of an existing,<br>functional and recommendable tool for adding tags and comments to an<br>online text, a tool which can be incorporated into a website as part of<br>it (as a module)?<br>And if you don\'t know about any, would you be interested in and want<br>to use such a tool if it existed? [...]','Tool for adding tags and comments','Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:04:26 +0200')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=20705">Tool for adding tags and comments</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Hilde Bøe</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:04:26 +0200</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">63 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('I\'m not at all sure these would do what you want, but have you looked<br>at web-based XML editors? I only know of two off of the top of my<br>head:<br>http://xopus.com/<br>http://xmlia.com/','Re: Tool for adding tags and comments','Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:22:37 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=21257">Re: Tool for adding tags and comments</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:22:37 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">16 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hilde,<br><br>A tool that lets you annotate at the paragraph (rather than page) level<br>is digress.it ( http://digress.it/ ), formerly CommentPress. It is not<br>TEI-aware, and it does not having tagging features built in. Still, it<br>might be useful, even if only as a model for designing an interface to a<br>tool that better suits your needs. [...]','Re: Tool for adding tags and comments','Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:18:48 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=24378">Re: Tool for adding tags and comments</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Kevin Hawkins</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:18:48 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">19 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="34"></a><a href="#34">Using TEI to prepare memorandum</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Is anyone familiar with a technique to prepare a memorandum using<br>TEI?<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Gary Hoffman','Using TEI to prepare memorandum','Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:04:20 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=64194">Using TEI to prepare memorandum</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Gary Hoffman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:04:20 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">16 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Presumably it would be much like a regular document with some headers<br>and/or address information? Do you mean structurally or in terms of<br>output (i.e. styling and presentation)?<br><br>Gary Hoffman wrote:<br>> Is anyone familiar with a technique to prepare a memorandum using<br>> TEI?<br>><br>> Thanks,<br>><br>> Gary Hoffman<br>>','Re: Using TEI to prepare memorandum','Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:01:13 -0600')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=64466">Re: Using TEI to prepare memorandum</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Dan O'Donnell</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:01:13 -0600</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">39 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Gary Hoffman wrote:<br>> Is anyone familiar with a technique to prepare a memorandum using<br>> TEI?<br>><br><br>I think you need to explain what exactly a "memorandum" is! maybe an<br>example would help?','Re: Using TEI to prepare memorandum','Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:28:49 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=65016">Re: Using TEI to prepare memorandum</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Lou Burnard</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:28:49 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">19 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="35"></a><a href="#35">vesta version</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Is there any way to interogate Vesta to ask "what version are you?"<br>on Mac OS X? Either while it\'s running or by poking into the files in<br>Vesta.app/, i.e., presuming that the .dmg file that was downloaded is<br>not available.','vesta version','Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:47:02 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=41031">vesta version</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:47:02 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">14 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('On 14 Oct 2009, at 19:47, Syd Bauman wrote:<br><br>> Is there any way to interogate Vesta to ask "what version are you?"<br>> on Mac OS X? Either while it\'s running or by poking into the files in<br>> Vesta.app/, i.e., presuming that the .dmg file that was downloaded is<br>> not available. [...]','Re: vesta version','Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:06:15 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=41429">Re: vesta version</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:06:15 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">30 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('> sadly not. I don\'t think a Vesta knows her age, even were you to<br>> find a way to ask her.<br><br>Sigh. Well, one can at least compare versions by interogating all the<br>*.xsl files in<br>/Applications/Vesta.app/Contents/Resources/resources/stylesheets/ and<br>asking them to fork over their <xd:cvsId> elements, (Those are<br>automatically generated, and thus reilable, yes?)','Re: vesta version','Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:22:21 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=41933">Re: vesta version</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:22:21 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">19 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('On 14 Oct 2009, at 21:22, Syd Bauman wrote:<br><br>> Sigh. Well, one can at least compare versions by interogating all the<br>> *.xsl files in<br>> /Applications/Vesta.app/Contents/Resources/resources/stylesheets/ and<br>> asking them to fork over their <xd:cvsId> elements, (Those are<br>> automatically generated, and thus reilable, yes?)<br><br>indeed they are.','Re: vesta version','Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:23:05 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=42487">Re: vesta version</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:23:05 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">29 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="36"></a><a href="#36">WORKSHOP: Host your texts on Google in one day</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('[posted on behalf of Neel Smith]<br><br>WORKSHOP: Host your texts on Google in one day<br><br>The Center For Hellenic Studies will conduct a one-day workshop at the<br>Center\'s Washington, D.C., campus, on Monday, Jan. 11, 2010, with the<br>subject: "Host your texts on Google in one day". Bring one or more<br>XML texts to the workshop in the morning, and leave in the afternoon<br>with a running Google installation of Canonical Text Services serving<br>your texts to the internet<br>(http://chs75.chs.harvard.edu/projects/diginc/techpub/cts). [...]','WORKSHOP: Host your texts on Google in one day','Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:31:16 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=17493">WORKSHOP: Host your texts on Google in one day</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Dot Porter</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:31:16 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">35 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="37"></a><a href="#37">[ann] oXygen XML editor 11</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi,<br><br>I am happy to announce that version 11 of oXygen XML editor is available<br>from our website<br>http://www.oxygenxml.com<br><br>Some of the new features in version 11 respond to the feedback from the<br>TEI community and I would take this opportunity to say: Thank you!<br>These are mainly related to the visual editing where we worked to<br>improve the editing experience by better guiding the user to keep the<br>document valid.<br>For example by default oXygen will block entering text in empty elements<br>or in elements with element-only content and it will allow to insert<br>only valid elements.<br>There is [...]','[ann] oXygen XML editor 11','Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:41:17 +0300')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=52936">[ann] oXygen XML editor 11</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">George Cristian Bina</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:41:17 +0300</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">41 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="38"></a><a href="#38">[Fwd: Digitizing Chinese Characters]</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('FYI ...<br><br>-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: Digitizing Chinese Characters<br>Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:42:36 -0400<br>From: Kathlin Smith <[log in to unmask]><br>Reply-To: Kathlin Smith <[log in to unmask]><br>To: [log in to unmask]<br><br>Mark Roblee of the Wenlin Institute (a commercial provider) wanted us to<br>share this with DLF members. It looked interesting enough to pass along<br>to the DLF-Announce list, a way to get beyond Unicode for CJK-type<br>languages. Please feel free to let us know if you\'d like to see more of<br>this sort of thing or if this makes the list too "noisy." [...]','[Fwd: Digitizing Chinese Characters]','Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:54:10 -0400')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=43058">[Fwd: Digitizing Chinese Characters]</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Kevin Hawkins</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:54:10 -0400</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">90 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="39"></a><a href="#39">[Fwd: Re: In witness, why not repository and idno ?]</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: Re: In witness, why not repository and idno ?<br>Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:49:21 +0100<br>From: Lou Burnard <[log in to unmask]><br>To: "Frédéric Glorieux (École nationale des chartes)"<br><[log in to unmask]><br>References: <[log in to unmask]><br><br>This is an interesting question, because it demonstrates how much work<br>is still left for Occam\'s razor in the organization of the TEI Guidelines. [...]','[Fwd: Re: In witness, why not repository and idno ?]','Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:52:34 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0910&L=TEI-L&P=9172">[Fwd: Re: In witness, why not repository and idno ?]</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Lou Burnard</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:52:34 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">104 lines</p></td> </tr> </table> </td> <td width="20%" valign="top"> <table width="100%" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" border="0"> <tr><td class="blogtop"><h4><LABEL for="Search Archives">Search Archives</LABEL></h4></td></tr> <tr><td class="blogbox"> <p class="blogsmall"><a href="/cgi-bin/wa?REPORT=TEI-L&z=4&1=TEI-L&L=TEI-L">Advanced Options</a></p> <table width="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"> <tr><td align="center" nowrap> <form action="/cgi-bin/wa" method="post"> <table cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" border="0"> <tr><td> <input type="hidden" name="REPORT" value="TEI-L"> <input type="hidden" name="z" value="4"> <input type="hidden" name="1" value="TEI-L"> <input type="hidden" name="L" value="TEI-L"> <input type="hidden" name="I" value="-3"> <input name="q" value="" size="18" class="search" id="Search Archives"> <input type="hidden" name="_charset_"> </td><td> <input type="submit" value="Search"> </td></tr> </table> </form> </td></tr> </table> </td></tr> </table> <br> <table width="100%" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" border="0"> <tr><td class="blogtop"><h4>Options</h4></td></tr> <tr><td class="blogbox"> <table width="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"> <tr> <td><a href="/cgi-bin/wa?LOGON=A0%3dTEI-L%26t%3d&L=TEI-L"><img src="/archives/images/b-login.png" alt="Log In" title="Log In" border="0"></a></td> <td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td> <td width="100%" nowrap><p class="bloghead"><a href="/cgi-bin/wa?LOGON=A0%3dTEI-L%26t%3d&L=TEI-L">Log In</a></p></td> </tr> <tr> <td><a href="/cgi-bin/wa?GETPW1"><img src="/archives/images/b-password.png" alt="Get Password" title="Get Password" border="0"></a></td> <td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td> <td width="100%" nowrap><p class="bloghead"><a href="/cgi-bin/wa?GETPW1">Get Password</a></p></td> </tr> <tr><td colspan="3"><hr></td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TEI-L&A=1"><img src="/archives/images/b-join.png" alt="Subscribe or Unsubscribe" title="Subscribe or Unsubscribe" border="0"></a></td> <td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td> <td width="100%" nowrap><p class="bloghead"><a href="/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TEI-L&A=1">Subscribe or Unsubscribe</a></p></td> </tr> </table> </td></tr> </table> <br> <table width="100%" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" border="0"> <tr><td class="blogtop"><h4>Archives</h4></td></tr> <tr><td class="blogbox"> </td></tr> </table> </td></tr></table> <table width="100%" cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0" border="0"> <tr><td align="right"> <p align="right"> <a style='background-color: #99ccff; border: 1px outset; font-weight: bold; color: white; font-size: 12px; padding: 0 0.4em; text-decoration: none; font-family: sans-serif;' href="/cgi-bin/wa?RSS&L=TEI-L&v=ATOM1.0">ATOM</a> <a style='background-color: #f80; border: 1px outset; font-weight: bold; color: white; font-size: 12px; padding: 0 0.4em; text-decoration: none; font-family: sans-serif;' href="/cgi-bin/wa?RSS&L=TEI-L&v=1.0">RSS1</a> <a style='background-color: #f80; border: 1px outset; font-weight: bold; color: white; font-size: 12px; padding: 0 0.4em; text-decoration: none; font-family: sans-serif;' href="/cgi-bin/wa?RSS&L=TEI-L&v=2.0">RSS2</a> </p> </td></tr> </table> </td></tr></table> <div id="listdesc" style="position:absolute; left:100px; top:100px; z-index:999; visibility: hidden"></div> <br><br> <table width="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"> <tr> <td align="left"><p><a href="/cgi-bin/wa?INDEX">LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU</a></p></td> <td align="right"><p> <a href="http://www.lsoft.com/catalist.html" target="_blank"><img src="/archives/images/b-catalist.png" alt="CataList Email List Search" title="CataList Email List Search" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.lsoft.com/products/listserv-powered.asp" target="_blank"><img src="/archives/images/b-lpowered.png" alt="Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager" title="Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager" border="0"></a> </p> </td> </tr> </table> </td> </tr> </table> </body> </html>