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On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:26:50 -0500, Andrew Nowicki <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >Rex May wrote: > >> Loglan's great contribution was to make us >> think of how language actually works, a >> thing Eo never did at all (and didn't really >> intend to), so any auxlanger really should >> familiarize himself with Loglan, so as to >> do a better job. > >Yes, they made us think, but they have >not introduced any idea that improved >auxlang design. Loglan textbook is much >better than Lojban textbook and now it >is available free of charge at: >http://www.loglan.org 'Improved' is a matter of opinion, but they certainly introduced ideas that have -affected- auxlang design. Or perhaps revived or emphasized ideas that someone already had, I couldn't say for sure. But, at least until they started fooling around with Q = /T/ and things like that, they had a pretty good idea for an unu sono - unu litero system, certainly superior to Eo's. They also introduced the idea of switching argument places, which I incorporated into Tceqli with the word 'be', which switches subject and object. Finally, they made an excellent try at SSM. I certainly would never have seriously attempted an auxlang were it not for the impetus I got from Loglan, i. e., to do an auxlang incorporating what I see as some of its best features, and eliminating some of its flaws. And thanks for the link.