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• A Carraxan folk tale
• Allochronic Auxlang (4 messages)
• Bye for now. (2 messages)
• conlang versions and revisions (4 messages)
• Editing on the Conlang/Conculture Wiki temporarily suspended due to spam
• Going mostly-away for a while.
• How would I indicate interdental plosives? (2 messages)
• Isolating languages (5 messages)
• Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (32 messages)
• META: Longest threads? (2 messages)
• New language under development (4 messages)
• Non-linear / full-2d writing systems? (10 messages)
• Non-linear / full-2d writing systems? (Telepathy dept.)
• OT: Announcement (3 messages)
• OT: I'm on AIM now as well
• Phonetic (4 messages)
• Prefixes and typology (5 messages)
• REQUEST: How to Pronounce Your Conlang's Name (7 messages)
• Tatari Faran and Verb Complements (4 messages)
• Tech: conlang definition
• Tetrect: A 2D Language I'm Working On
• THEORY: Alignment of ditransitive with monotransitive case roles. (2 messages)
• THEORY: Are commands to believe infelicitous? (18 messages)
• THEORY: Reflexive Voice and Reciprocal Voice in Ditransitive Clauses (4 messages)
• Traveller's Phrasebook 1-6 in Ayeri
• Travellers Phrasebook Sections 7-8 (blank)
• Travellers Phrasebook Sections 7-8 in Franj
• Vigesimal Numerals
• Word Creation (3 messages)

1. A Carraxan folk tale
   • A Carraxan folk tale (47 lines)
     From: Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 09:41:08 -0700

2. Allochronic Auxlang
   • Re: Allochronic Auxlang (42 lines)
     From: Ph. D. <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 10:37:19 -0400
   • Re: Allochronic Auxlang (15 lines)
     From: Rex May <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 06:29:39 -0400
   • Re: Allochronic Auxlang (24 lines)
     From: Jeffrey Jones <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 23:06:17 -0400
   • Allochronic Auxlang (17 lines)
     From: Rex May <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 21:57:59 -0400

3. Bye for now.
   • Re: Bye for now. (35 lines)
     From: tomhchappell <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 23:27:58 -0000
   • Bye for now. (33 lines)
     From: Ray Brown <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 19:05:52 +0100

4. conlang versions and revisions
   • Re: conlang versions and revisions (69 lines)
     From: Henrik Theiling <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 03:23:38 +0200
   • Re: conlang versions and revisions (68 lines)
     From: Jörg Rhiemeier <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 02:22:43 +0200
   • Re: conlang versions and revisions (55 lines)
     From: Arthaey Angosii <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 14:51:40 -0700
   • conlang versions and revisions (39 lines)
     From: René Uittenbogaard <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 21:52:25 +0200

5. Editing on the Conlang/Conculture Wiki temporarily suspended due to spam
   • Editing on the Conlang/Conculture Wiki temporarily suspended due to spam (56 lines)
     From: Keith Gaughan <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 15:31:49 +0100

6. Going mostly-away for a while.
   • Going mostly-away for a while. (40 lines)
     From: Sai Emrys <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 11:01:55 -0700

7. How would I indicate interdental plosives?
   • Re: How would I indicate interdental plosives? (42 lines)
     From: Paul Bennett <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 18:50:53 -0400
   • How would I indicate interdental plosives? (29 lines)
     From: Joseph a.k.a Buck <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:07:07 -0700

8. Isolating languages
   • Re: Isolating languages (60 lines)
     From: Caleb Hines <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 22:50:39 -0400
   • Re: Isolating languages (82 lines)
     From: Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 17:32:07 -0400
   • Re: Isolating languages (48 lines)
     From: Ph. D. <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 16:14:41 -0400
   • Re: Isolating languages (62 lines)
     From: Steven Williams <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 20:26:53 +0200
   • Isolating languages (52 lines)
     From: Caleb Hines <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 13:39:01 -0400

9. Lexeme Request: Water and Fire
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (75 lines)
     From: # 1 <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 22:16:54 -0400
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (78 lines)
     From: Herman Miller <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 21:01:17 -0500
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (48 lines)
     From: scott <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 21:30:23 -0400
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (82 lines)
     From: Andrew Gerber <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 18:20:40 -0700
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (48 lines)
     From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 16:18:00 GMT
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (52 lines)
     From: Jörg Rhiemeier <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 18:28:07 +0200
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (43 lines)
     From: Carsten Becker <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 17:18:26 +0200
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (40 lines)
     From: Sanghyeon Seo <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 23:03:50 +0900
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (60 lines)
     From: Joseph a.k.a Buck <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 06:35:53 -0700
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (32 lines)
     From: Andreas Johansson <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 14:48:36 +0200
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (102 lines)
     From: B. Garcia <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 04:35:44 -0700
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (69 lines)
     From: Henrik Theiling <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 12:22:01 +0200
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (40 lines)
     From: René Uittenbogaard <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 09:15:52 +0200
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (80 lines)
     From: David J. Peterson <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:02:34 -0700
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (53 lines)
     From: Herman Miller <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:54:07 -0500
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (53 lines)
     From: mike poxon <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 02:16:19 +0100
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (67 lines)
     From: # 1 <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:44:21 -0400
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (38 lines)
     From: Remi Villatel <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 01:31:17 +0200
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (64 lines)
     From: Sylvia Sotomayor <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:33:06 -0700
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (63 lines)
     From: Henrik Theiling <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 23:23:06 +0200
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (55 lines)
     From: Jörg Rhiemeier <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:35:15 +0200
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (65 lines)
     From: taliesin the storyteller <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:42:20 +0200
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (36 lines)
     From: Matt Arriola <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:25:23 -0400
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (66 lines)
     From: Paul Bennett <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:39:05 -0400
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (89 lines)
     From: Elyse M. Grasso <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 09:45:53 -0400
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (54 lines)
     From: caeruleancentaur <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:32:55 -0000
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (103 lines)
     From: Wesley Parish <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 23:30:44 +1200
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (66 lines)
     From: B. Garcia <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 02:19:27 -0700
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (47 lines)
     From: Aidan Grey <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 00:40:23 -0700
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (60 lines)
     From: Mike Ellis <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 03:35:09 -0400
   • Re: Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (58 lines)
     From: Arthaey Angosii <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 00:09:35 -0700
   • Lexeme Request: Water and Fire (71 lines)
     From: David J. Peterson <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 23:27:30 -0700

10. META: Longest threads?
    • Re: META: Longest threads? (76 lines)
      From: Ray Brown <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 18:12:04 +0100
    • Re: META: Longest threads? (67 lines)
      From: Amanda Babcock <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 17:55:43 -0400

11. New language under development
    • Re: New language under development (49 lines)
      From: Jörg Rhiemeier <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:18:48 +0200
    • Re: New language under development (161 lines)
      From: Patrick Littell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 15:27:29 -0400
    • Re: New language under development (223 lines)
      From: Patrick Littell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:58:16 -0400
    • New language under development (138 lines)
      From: Julia "Schnecki" Simon <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 16:46:40 +0300

12. Non-linear / full-2d writing systems?
    • Re: Non-linear / full-2d writing systems? (51 lines)
      From: Caleb Hines <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 21:36:01 -0400
    • Re: Non-linear / full-2d writing systems? (288 lines)
      From: Ray Brown <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 19:03:30 +0100
    • Re: Non-linear / full-2d writing systems? (45 lines)
      From: Henrik Theiling <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 04:01:57 +0200
    • Re: Non-linear / full-2d writing systems? (256 lines)
      From: Schuyler <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 19:42:59 -0400
    • Re: Non-linear / full-2d writing systems? (214 lines)
      From: Ray Brown <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 19:13:29 +0100
    • Re: Non-linear / full-2d writing systems? (31 lines)
      From: Joseph Bridwell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 16:27:24 -0000
    • Re: Non-linear / full-2d writing systems? (48 lines)
      From: Joe <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:36:42 +0100
    • Re: Non-linear / full-2d writing systems? (60 lines)
      From: Steg Belsky <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 22:07:41 +0300
    • Re: Non-linear / full-2d writing systems? (100 lines)
      From: Schuyler <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 14:21:58 -0400
    • Re: Non-linear / full-2d writing systems? (130 lines)
      From: Ray Brown <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 17:53:21 +0100

13. Non-linear / full-2d writing systems? (Telepathy dept.)
    • Re: Non-linear / full-2d writing systems? (Telepathy dept.) (42 lines)
      From: Cian Ross <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 18:25:19 -0500

14. OT: Announcement
    • Re: OT: Announcement (73 lines)
      From: Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 11:58:47 -0400
    • Re: OT: Announcement (48 lines)
      From: Mia Soderquist <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 11:51:35 -0400
    • Re: OT: Announcement (39 lines)
      From: Isaac Penzev <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 10:56:49 +0300

15. OT: I'm on AIM now as well
    • OT: I'm on AIM now as well (21 lines)
      From: Carsten Becker <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 12:33:26 -0400

16. Phonetic
    • Re: Phonetic (57 lines)
      From: Ray Brown <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 19:05:46 +0100
    • Re: Phonetic (151 lines)
      From: # 1 <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 01:01:59 -0400
    • Re: Phonetic (141 lines)
      From: Steven Williams <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 05:09:13 +0200
    • Phonetic (70 lines)
      From: # 1 <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:19:44 -0400

17. Prefixes and typology
    • Re: Prefixes and typology (43 lines)
      From: Herman Miller <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 21:17:11 -0500
    • Re: Prefixes and typology (68 lines)
      From: Tim May <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 02:25:06 +0100
    • Re: Prefixes and typology (206 lines)
      From: Patrick Littell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 18:21:54 -0400
    • Re: Prefixes and typology (47 lines)
      From: Doug Dee <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 09:18:43 EDT
    • Prefixes and typology (40 lines)
      From: Kris <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:32:57 +0100

18. REQUEST: How to Pronounce Your Conlang's Name
    • Re: REQUEST: How to Pronounce Your Conlang's Name (47 lines)
      From: Remi Villatel <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 05:27:04 +0200
    • Re: REQUEST: How to Pronounce Your Conlang's Name (43 lines)
      From: Arthaey Angosii <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 19:15:19 -0700
    • Re: REQUEST: How to Pronounce Your Conlang's Name (53 lines)
      From: Arthaey Angosii <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 16:58:31 -0700
    • Re: REQUEST: How to Pronounce Your Conlang's Name (56 lines)
      From: Paul Bennett <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 19:56:21 -0400
    • Re: REQUEST: How to Pronounce Your Conlang's Name (64 lines)
      From: Arthaey Angosii <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 16:30:56 -0700
    • Re: REQUEST: How to Pronounce Your Conlang's Name (72 lines)
      From: H. S. Teoh <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 15:33:28 -0700
    • REQUEST: How to Pronounce Your Conlang's Name (48 lines)
      From: Arthaey Angosii <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 14:59:43 -0700

19. Tatari Faran and Verb Complements
    • Re: Tatari Faran and Verb Complements (59 lines)
      From: Henrik Theiling <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 19:40:26 +0200
    • Re: Tatari Faran and Verb Complements (60 lines)
      From: tomhchappell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 17:17:37 -0000
    • Re: Tatari Faran and Verb Complements (56 lines)
      From: # 1 <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 02:35:44 -0400
    • Re: Tatari Faran and Verb Complements (45 lines)
      From: tomhchappell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 04:26:06 -0000

20. Tech: conlang definition
    • Re: Tech: conlang definition (50 lines)
      From: Tony Jebson <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 15:34:39 +0300

21. Tetrect: A 2D Language I'm Working On
    • Tetrect: A 2D Language I'm Working On (80 lines)
      From: David J. Peterson <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 00:38:21 -0700

22. THEORY: Alignment of ditransitive with monotransitive case roles.
    • Re: THEORY: Alignment of ditransitive with monotransitive case roles. (112 lines)
      From: tomhchappell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 00:45:42 -0000
    • Re: THEORY: Alignment of ditransitive with monotransitive case roles. (63 lines)
      From: Carsten Becker <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 21:38:06 +0200

23. THEORY: Are commands to believe infelicitous?
    • Re: THEORY: Are commands to believe infelicitous? (142 lines)
      From: Ray Brown <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 19:05:39 +0100
    • Re: THEORY: Are commands to believe infelicitous? (79 lines)
      From: Joseph Bridwell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 14:57:03 -0000
    • Re: THEORY: Are commands to believe infelicitous? (69 lines)
      From: tomhchappell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 04:12:58 -0000
    • Re: THEORY: Are commands to believe infelicitous? (101 lines)
      From: tomhchappell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:06:13 -0000
    • Re: THEORY: Are commands to believe infelicitous? (66 lines)
      From: tomhchappell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:12:50 -0000
    • Re: THEORY: Are commands to believe infelicitous? (77 lines)
      From: Tim May <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:52:05 +0100
    • Re: THEORY: Are commands to believe infelicitous? (178 lines)
      From: Ray Brown <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:38:09 +0100
    • Re: THEORY: Are commands to believe infelicitous? (44 lines)
      From: Henrik Theiling <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:57:53 +0200
    • Re: THEORY: Are commands to believe infelicitous? (130 lines)
      From: Patrick Littell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:50:51 -0400
    • Re: THEORY: Are commands to believe infelicitous? (67 lines)
      From: Trent Pehrson <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:07:17 -0400
    • Re: THEORY: Are commands to believe infelicitous? (157 lines)
      From: David J. Peterson <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 23:21:14 -0700
    • Re: THEORY: Are commands to believe infelicitous? (119 lines)
      From: tomhchappell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 03:51:31 -0000
    • Re: THEORY: Are commands to believe infelicitous? (66 lines)
      From: tomhchappell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 03:14:09 -0000
    • Re: THEORY: Are commands to believe infelicitous? (157 lines)
      From: tomhchappell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 03:07:23 -0000
    • Re: THEORY: Are commands to believe infelicitous? (97 lines)
      From: Herman Miller <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 22:08:14 -0500
    • Re: THEORY: Are commands to believe infelicitous? (71 lines)
      From: Joseph Bridwell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 15:28:09 -0000
    • Re: THEORY: Are commands to believe infelicitous? (50 lines)
      From: David J. Peterson <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 01:09:01 -0700
    • THEORY: Are commands to believe infelicitous? (80 lines)
      From: Tom Chappell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 17:52:52 -0700

24. THEORY: Reflexive Voice and Reciprocal Voice in Ditransitive Clauses
    • Re: THEORY: Reflexive Voice and Reciprocal Voice in Ditransitive Clauses (65 lines)
      From: tomhchappell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:41:08 -0000
    • Re: THEORY: Reflexive Voice and Reciprocal Voice in Ditransitive Clauses (46 lines)
      From: Geoff Horswood <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 02:07:38 -0400
    • Re: THEORY: Reflexive Voice and Reciprocal Voice in Ditransitive Clauses (97 lines)
      From: Ray Brown <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 17:55:46 +0100
    • Re: THEORY: Reflexive Voice and Reciprocal Voice in Ditransitive Clauses (61 lines)
      From: tomhchappell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 04:35:24 -0000

25. Traveller's Phrasebook 1-6 in Ayeri
    • Traveller's Phrasebook 1-6 in Ayeri (378 lines)
      From: Carsten Becker <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:28:23 +0200

26. Travellers Phrasebook Sections 7-8 (blank)
    • Travellers Phrasebook Sections 7-8 (blank) (160 lines)
      From: Geoff Horswood <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 01:25:13 -0400

27. Travellers Phrasebook Sections 7-8 in Franj
    • Travellers Phrasebook Sections 7-8 in Franj (173 lines)
      From: Geoff Horswood <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 01:38:26 -0400

28. Vigesimal Numerals
    • Vigesimal Numerals (43 lines)
      From: caeruleancentaur <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:09:11 -0000

29. Word Creation
    • Re: Word Creation (42 lines)
      From: Simon Clarkstone <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 14:47:58 +0100
    • Re: Word Creation (51 lines)
      From: David J. Peterson <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 03:09:44 -0700
    • Re: Word Creation (60 lines)
      From: tomhchappell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 04:15:11 -0000