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• "Theory informs practice" - OK? (3 messages)
• A language change question (longish) (3 messages)
• A Two-Dimensional Sentence Structure (3 messages)
• A Two-Dimensional Sentence Structure -Correction
• Adpositions gaining new uses (25 messages)
• An "original" observation (3 messages)
• conlanging partners (was: Re: OT: What is the maximum number of citizenships someone can have? (3 messages)
• Describing the Welsh LL to non-linguists (5 messages)
• how can I tell a postposition from a case marker??? (2 messages)
• Lateral fricatives (was: Describing the Welsh LL to non-linguists)
• LIFO languages (was Re: "Theory informs practice" - OK?) (10 messages)
• Need sources and root words --- an y one know anything about the Na-Déné? (2 messages)
• Need sources and root words --- any one know anything about the Na-Déné?
• Nonpulmonic conlang? (19 messages)
• Obama
• OT: Re : Question about starting
• OT: Re: LIF O languages (was Re: "Theory informs practice" - OK?)
• OT: Does anybody know what language this is... (9 messages)
• OT: Re : Question about starting
• OT: What is the maximum number of citizenships someone can have? (6 messages)
• Question about starting (11 messages)
• Relative sonority of rhotics vs lateral liquids (2 messages)
• Set of basic adpositions
• TECH: font with round eng character (3 messages)
• USAGE: heuristics for Russian stress? (5 messages)
• USAGE: Implied prepositions in English (2 messages)
• Word class marking in the wild... (7 messages)

1. "Theory informs practice" - OK?
   • Re: "Theory informs practice" - OK? (41 lines)
     From: Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: "Theory informs practice" - OK? (51 lines)
     From: Jim Henry <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: "Theory informs practice" - OK? (74 lines)
     From: Jörg Rhiemeier <[log in to unmask]>

2. A language change question (longish)
   • A language change question (longish) (67 lines)
     From: Eric Christopherson <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A language change question (longish) (62 lines)
     From: ROGER MILLS <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A language change question (longish) (47 lines)
     From: Jörg Rhiemeier <[log in to unmask]>

3. A Two-Dimensional Sentence Structure
   • A Two-Dimensional Sentence Structure (45 lines)
     From: Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A Two-Dimensional Sentence Structure (42 lines)
     From: Jim Henry <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A Two-Dimensional Sentence Structure (41 lines)
     From: Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>

4. A Two-Dimensional Sentence Structure -Correction
   • Re: A Two-Dimensional Sentence Structure -Correction (58 lines)
     From: Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>

5. Adpositions gaining new uses
   • Adpositions gaining new uses (54 lines)
     From: Ina van der Vegt <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (94 lines)
     From: René Uittenbogaard <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (75 lines)
     From: Philip Newton <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (40 lines)
     From: caeruleancentaur <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (35 lines)
     From: Henrik Theiling <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (89 lines)
     From: Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (39 lines)
     From: caeruleancentaur <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (36 lines)
     From: Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (43 lines)
     From: Eugene Oh <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (37 lines)
     From: ROGER MILLS <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (39 lines)
     From: Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (58 lines)
     From: Eugene Oh <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (42 lines)
     From: Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (61 lines)
     From: ROGER MILLS <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (51 lines)
     From: Benct Philip Jonsson <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (66 lines)
     From: Andreas Johansson <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (35 lines)
     From: René Uittenbogaard <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (54 lines)
     From: Michael Poxon <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (46 lines)
     From: Benct Philip Jonsson <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (51 lines)
     From: Henrik Theiling <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (52 lines)
     From: Andreas Johansson <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (63 lines)
     From: ROGER MILLS <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (46 lines)
     From: Herman Miller <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (78 lines)
     From: Benct Philip Jonsson <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adpositions gaining new uses (36 lines)
     From: Jim Henry <[log in to unmask]>

6. An "original" observation
   • An "original" observation (35 lines)
     From: Herman Miller <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: An "original" observation (37 lines)
     From: Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: An "original" observation (58 lines)
     From: John Campbell <[log in to unmask]>

7. conlanging partners (was: Re: OT: What is the maximum number of citizenships someone can have?
   • conlanging partners (was: Re: OT: What is the maximum number of citizenships someone can have? (39 lines)
     From: And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: conlanging partners (was: Re: OT: What is the maximum number of citizenships someone can have? (62 lines)
     From: Peter Collier <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: conlanging partners (was: Re: OT: What is the maximum number of citizenships someone can have? (63 lines)
     From: Sai Emrys <[log in to unmask]>

8. Describing the Welsh LL to non-linguists
   • Re: Describing the Welsh LL to non-linguists (76 lines)
     From: Eric Christopherson <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Describing the Welsh LL to non-linguists (48 lines)
     From: Eric Christopherson <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Describing the Welsh LL to non-linguists (57 lines)
     From: R A Brown <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Describing the Welsh LL to non-linguists (48 lines)
     From: Paul Roser <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Describing the Welsh LL to non-linguists (83 lines)
     From: Benct Philip Jonsson <[log in to unmask]>

9. how can I tell a postposition from a case marker???
   • Re: how can I tell a postposition from a case marker??? (54 lines)
     From: Jim Henry <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: how can I tell a postposition from a case marker??? (68 lines)
     From: Matthew Turnbull <[log in to unmask]>

10. Lateral fricatives (was: Describing the Welsh LL to non-linguists)
    • Lateral fricatives (was: Describing the Welsh LL to non-linguists) (84 lines)
      From: R A Brown <[log in to unmask]>

11. LIFO languages (was Re: "Theory informs practice" - OK?)
    • LIFO languages (was Re: "Theory informs practice" - OK?) (57 lines)
      From: Jörg Rhiemeier <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: LIFO languages (was Re: "Theory informs practice" - OK?) (58 lines)
      From: Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: LIFO languages (was Re: "Theory informs practice" - OK?) (50 lines)
      From: David J. Peterson <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: LIFO languages (was Re: "Theory informs practice" - OK?) (73 lines)
      From: Lars Finsen <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: LIFO languages (was Re: "Theory informs practice" - OK?) (73 lines)
      From: Jörg Rhiemeier <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: LIFO languages (was Re: "Theory informs practice" - OK?) (56 lines)
      From: Andreas Johansson <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: LIFO languages (was Re: "Theory informs practice" - OK?) (60 lines)
      From: Jörg Rhiemeier <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: LIFO languages (was Re: "Theory informs practice" - OK?) (57 lines)
      From: Eugene Oh <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: LIFO languages (was Re: "Theory informs practice" - OK?) (60 lines)
      From: René Uittenbogaard <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: LIFO languages (was Re: "Theory informs practice" - OK?) (96 lines)
      From: Yahya Abdal-Aziz <[log in to unmask]>

12. Need sources and root words --- an y one know anything about the Na-Déné?
    • Re: Need sources and root words --- an y one know anything about the Na-Déné? (57 lines)
      From: Dirk Elzinga <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Need sources and root words --- an y one know anything about the Na-Déné? (47 lines)
      From: Steven A. Williams <[log in to unmask]>

13. Need sources and root words --- any one know anything about the Na-Déné?
    • Need sources and root words --- any one know anything about the Na-Déné? (33 lines)
      From: Steven A. Williams <[log in to unmask]>

14. Nonpulmonic conlang?
    • Nonpulmonic conlang? (30 lines)
      From: Sai Emrys <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Nonpulmonic conlang? (47 lines)
      From: Veoler <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Nonpulmonic conlang? (45 lines)
      From: David Vercauteren <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Nonpulmonic conlang? (122 lines)
      From: R A Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Nonpulmonic conlang? (80 lines)
      From: ROGER MILLS <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Nonpulmonic conlang? (32 lines)
      From: Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Nonpulmonic conlang? (32 lines)
      From: Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Nonpulmonic conlang? (41 lines)
      From: Eldin Raigmore <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Nonpulmonic conlang? (99 lines)
      From: Eldin Raigmore <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Nonpulmonic conlang? (114 lines)
      From: R A Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Nonpulmonic conlang? (93 lines)
      From: Veoler <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Nonpulmonic conlang? (130 lines)
      From: R A Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Nonpulmonic conlang? (62 lines)
      From: ROGER MILLS <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Nonpulmonic conlang? (42 lines)
      From: Paul Roser <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Nonpulmonic conlang? (110 lines)
      From: Veoler <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Nonpulmonic conlang? (59 lines)
      From: Matthew Turnbull <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Nonpulmonic conlang? (56 lines)
      From: David Vercauteren <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Nonpulmonic conlang? (70 lines)
      From: René Uittenbogaard <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Nonpulmonic conlang? (96 lines)
      From: Sai Emrys <[log in to unmask]>

15. Obama
    • Re: Obama (50 lines)
      From: John Campbell <[log in to unmask]>

16. OT: Re : Question about starting
    • OT: Re : Question about starting (50 lines)
      From: taliesin the storyteller <[log in to unmask]>

17. OT: Re: LIF O languages (was Re: "Theory informs practice" - OK?)
    • OT: Re: LIF O languages (was Re: "Theory informs practice" - OK?) (70 lines)
      From: taliesin the storyteller <[log in to unmask]>

18. OT: Does anybody know what language this is...
    • OT: Does anybody know what language this is... (26 lines)
      From: Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: OT: Does anybody know what language this is... (47 lines)
      From: Lars Finsen <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: OT: Does anybody know what language this is... (47 lines)
      From: Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: OT: Does anybody know what language this is... (50 lines)
      From: Jörg Rhiemeier <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: OT: Does anybody know what language this is... (32 lines)
      From: René Uittenbogaard <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: OT: Does anybody know what language this is... (46 lines)
      From: Jörg Rhiemeier <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: OT: Does anybody know what language this is... (57 lines)
      From: Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: OT: Does anybody know what language this is... (46 lines)
      From: Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: OT: Does anybody know what language this is... (65 lines)
      From: Jörg Rhiemeier <[log in to unmask]>

19. OT: Re : Question about starting
    • Re: OT: Re : Question about starting (54 lines)
      From: Bookworm Alpha <[log in to unmask]>

20. OT: What is the maximum number of citizenships someone can have?
    • OT: What is the maximum number of citizenships someone can have? (89 lines)
      From: Sai Emrys <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: OT: What is the maximum number of citizenships someone can have? (43 lines)
      From: Eric Christopherson <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: OT: What is the maximum number of citizenships someone can have? (53 lines)
      From: Sai Emrys <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: OT: What is the maximum number of citizenships someone can have? (45 lines)
      From: ROGER MILLS <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: OT: What is the maximum number of citizenships someone can have? (74 lines)
      From: Peter Collier <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: OT: What is the maximum number of citizenships someone can have? (71 lines)
      From: deinx nxtxr <[log in to unmask]>

21. Question about starting
    • Question about starting (52 lines)
      From: Bookworm Alpha <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Question about starting (70 lines)
      From: [log in to unmask]
    • Re: Question about starting (94 lines)
      From: Peter Collier <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Question about starting (76 lines)
      From: Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Question about starting (48 lines)
      From: Michael Poxon <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Question about starting (62 lines)
      From: Lars Finsen <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Question about starting (51 lines)
      From: Carl Banks <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Question about starting (127 lines)
      From: Bookworm Alpha <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Question about starting (31 lines)
      From: Bookworm Alpha <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Question about starting (55 lines)
      From: Henrik Theiling <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Question about starting (43 lines)
      From: Henrik Theiling <[log in to unmask]>

22. Relative sonority of rhotics vs lateral liquids
    • Relative sonority of rhotics vs lateral liquids (101 lines)
      From: Eldin Raigmore <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Relative sonority of rhotics vs lateral liquids (56 lines)
      From: Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]>

23. Set of basic adpositions
    • Re: Set of basic adpositions (106 lines)
      From: Carsten Becker <[log in to unmask]>

24. TECH: font with round eng character
    • TECH: font with round eng character (36 lines)
      From: Benct Philip Jonsson <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: TECH: font with round eng character (36 lines)
      From: Herman Miller <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: TECH: font with round eng character (39 lines)
      From: Matthew Turnbull <[log in to unmask]>

25. USAGE: heuristics for Russian stress?
    • USAGE: heuristics for Russian stress? (25 lines)
      From: Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: USAGE: heuristics for Russian stress? (38 lines)
      From: Amanda Babcock Furrow <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: USAGE: heuristics for Russian stress? (41 lines)
      From: Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: USAGE: heuristics for Russian stress? (45 lines)
      From: Amanda Babcock Furrow <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: USAGE: heuristics for Russian stress? (45 lines)
      From: Philip Newton <[log in to unmask]>

26. USAGE: Implied prepositions in English
    • Re: USAGE: Implied prepositions in English (87 lines)
      From: Yahya Abdal-Aziz <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: USAGE: Implied prepositions in English (65 lines)
      From: Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]>

27. Word class marking in the wild...
    • Word class marking in the wild... (32 lines)
      From: Lars Mathiesen <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Word class marking in the wild... (37 lines)
      From: Benct Philip Jonsson <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Word class marking in the wild... (50 lines)
      From: Lars Mathiesen <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Word class marking in the wild... (60 lines)
      From: R A Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Word class marking in the wild... (67 lines)
      From: ROGER MILLS <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Word class marking in the wild... (99 lines)
      From: Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Word class marking in the wild... (45 lines)
      From: Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>