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• A nasalized voiceless glottal fricative? (10 messages)
• a phonology q (4 messages)
• An irregular verb system
• CHAT: Closet Conlanger Says Hi (12 messages)
• CHAT: French etymology question (5 messages)
• Conlangs and Wonderland
• Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Linguistic Studies: How Serious was Gong et al's error? (19 messages)
• Degree of nouns (or other parts of speech) (2 messages)
• Elemental Language (Was: [LoCoWriMo] This year's LoCoWriMo?)
• Fwd: An irregular verb system
• Gender Origin and Evolution (Hanoa?tsi/Central Mountain) (2 messages)
• Grammaticization of fault/credit (2 messages)
• How to.... (7 messages)
• Learning colors
• number classes
• On Cultural Differences in Color (32 messages)
• Origin on Quantifiers (4 messages)
• OT: chereme (or, is Ray Brown back from his hols yet?) (3 messages)
• Potentially amusing experiment (8 messages)
• small remark on "Does gjâ-zym-byn violate l inguistic universals?"
• Special Color/Semantic Domain relationships -- was: Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (11 messages)
• Split Ergativity (4 messages)
• The antiperfect aspect (4 messages)
• The Empire Strikes Back, told in icons (6 messages)
• Topic: preverbal/postverbal goodness (7 messages)
• Translating non-base-10 numbers into English (WAS: Counting system) (4 messages)

1. A nasalized voiceless glottal fricative?
   • A nasalized voiceless glottal fricative? (38 lines)
     From: Wyatt Berka <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A nasalized voiceless glottal fricative? (52 lines)
     From: Michael Everson <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A nasalized voiceless glottal fricative? (78 lines)
     From: Matthew Boutilier <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A nasalized voiceless glottal fricative? (44 lines)
     From: Wyatt Berka <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A nasalized voiceless glottal fricative? (65 lines)
     From: Matthew Boutilier <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A nasalized voiceless glottal fricative? (41 lines)
     From: Alex Bicksler <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A nasalized voiceless glottal fricative? (82 lines)
     From: Padraic Brown <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A nasalized voiceless glottal fricative? (47 lines)
     From: Patrick Dunn <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A nasalized voiceless glottal fricative? (89 lines)
     From: Padraic Brown <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A nasalized voiceless glottal fricative? (79 lines)
     From: Garth Wallace <[log in to unmask]>

2. a phonology q
   • a phonology q (56 lines)
     From: neo gu <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: a phonology q (58 lines)
     From: Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: a phonology q (80 lines)
     From: neo gu <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: a phonology q (50 lines)
     From: neo gu <[log in to unmask]>

3. An irregular verb system
   • Re: An irregular verb system (71 lines)
     From: Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets <[log in to unmask]>

4. CHAT: Closet Conlanger Says Hi
   • CHAT: Closet Conlanger Says Hi (36 lines)
     From: Virginia Keys <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: CHAT: Closet Conlanger Says Hi (65 lines)
     From: Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: CHAT: Closet Conlanger Says Hi (75 lines)
     From: David Peterson <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: CHAT: Closet Conlanger Says Hi (48 lines)
     From: Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: CHAT: Closet Conlanger Says Hi (74 lines)
     From: Lee <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: CHAT: Closet Conlanger Says Hi (71 lines)
     From: A. Mendes <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: CHAT: Closet Conlanger Says Hi (43 lines)
     From: Ph.D. <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: CHAT: Closet Conlanger Says Hi (42 lines)
     From: M.S. Soderquist <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: CHAT: Closet Conlanger Says Hi (40 lines)
     From: Sai <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: CHAT: Closet Conlanger Says Hi (30 lines)
     From: Virginia Keys <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: CHAT: Closet Conlanger Says Hi (51 lines)
     From: Sai <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: CHAT: Closet Conlanger Says Hi (60 lines)
     From: Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]>

5. CHAT: French etymology question
   • CHAT: French etymology question (45 lines)
     From: Padraic Brown <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: CHAT: French etymology question (44 lines)
     From: Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: CHAT: French etymology question (89 lines)
     From: Padraic Brown <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: CHAT: French etymology question (61 lines)
     From: Claude Almansi <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: CHAT: French etymology question (45 lines)
     From: David McCann <[log in to unmask]>

6. Conlangs and Wonderland
   • Re: Conlangs and Wonderland (54 lines)
     From: James Campbell <[log in to unmask]>

7. Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Linguistic Studies: How Serious was Gong et al's error?
   • Re: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Linguistic Studies: How Serious was Gong et al's error? (59 lines)
     From: And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Linguistic Studies: How Serious was Gong et al's error? (58 lines)
     From: Jim Henry <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Linguistic Studies: How Serious was Gong et al's error? (268 lines)
     From: And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Linguistic Studies: How Serious was Gong et al's error? (70 lines)
     From: And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Linguistic Studies: How Serious was Gong et al's error? (75 lines)
     From: Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Linguistic Studies: How Serious was Gong et al's error? (139 lines)
     From: Logan Kearsley <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Linguistic Studies: How Serious was Gong et al's error? (98 lines)
     From: Logan Kearsley <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Linguistic Studies: How Serious was Gong et al's error? (55 lines)
     From: Jim Henry <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Linguistic Studies: How Serious was Gong et al's error? (60 lines)
     From: And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Linguistic Studies: How Serious was Gong et al's error? (104 lines)
     From: And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Linguistic Studies: How Serious was Gong et al's error? (144 lines)
     From: And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Linguistic Studies: How Serious was Gong et al's error? (47 lines)
     From: And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Linguistic Studies: How Serious was Gong et al's error? (291 lines)
     From: Logan Kearsley <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Linguistic Studies: How Serious was Gong et al's error? (56 lines)
     From: And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Linguistic Studies: How Serious was Gong et al's error? (118 lines)
     From: Jörg Rhiemeier <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Linguistic Studies: How Serious was Gong et al's error? (130 lines)
     From: Sam Stutter <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Linguistic Studies: How Serious was Gong et al's error? (257 lines)
     From: And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Linguistic Studies: How Serious was Gong et al's error? (57 lines)
     From: Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Linguistic Studies: How Serious was Gong et al's error? (64 lines)
     From: And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>

8. Degree of nouns (or other parts of speech)
   • Re: Degree of nouns (or other parts of speech) (34 lines)
     From: Marlon Ribeiro <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Degree of nouns (or other parts of speech) (42 lines)
     From: Jim Henry <[log in to unmask]>

9. Elemental Language (Was: [LoCoWriMo] This year's LoCoWriMo?)
   • Elemental Language (Was: [LoCoWriMo] This year's LoCoWriMo?) (66 lines)
     From: Arthaey Angosii <[log in to unmask]>

10. Fwd: An irregular verb system
    • Fwd: An irregular verb system (43 lines)
      From: Nathan Unanymous <[log in to unmask]>

11. Gender Origin and Evolution (Hanoa?tsi/Central Mountain)
    • Re: Gender Origin and Evolution (Hanoa?tsi/Central Mountain) (62 lines)
      From: Brett Williams <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Gender Origin and Evolution (Hanoa?tsi/Central Mountain) (43 lines)
      From: J. Burke <[log in to unmask]>

12. Grammaticization of fault/credit
    • Re: Grammaticization of fault/credit (20 lines)
      From: Marlon Ribeiro <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Grammaticization of fault/credit (20 lines)
      From: Marlon Ribeiro <[log in to unmask]>

13. How to....
    • How to.... (33 lines)
      From: Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: How to.... (61 lines)
      From: Zach Wellstood <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: How to.... (44 lines)
      From: Garth Wallace <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: How to.... (63 lines)
      From: Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: How to.... (49 lines)
      From: David McCann <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: How to.... (39 lines)
      From: Arthaey Angosii <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: How to.... (46 lines)
      From: Michael Everson <[log in to unmask]>

14. Learning colors
    • Re: Learning colors (108 lines)
      From: Marlon Ribeiro <[log in to unmask]>

15. number classes
    • Re: number classes (89 lines)
      From: Marlon Ribeiro <[log in to unmask]>

16. On Cultural Differences in Color
    • On Cultural Differences in Color (61 lines)
      From: Zach Wellstood <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (79 lines)
      From: Eugene Oh <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (82 lines)
      From: Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (89 lines)
      From: Eugene Oh <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (130 lines)
      From: Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (61 lines)
      From: Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (38 lines)
      From: Garth Wallace <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (80 lines)
      From: Paul Schleitwiler, FCM <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (95 lines)
      From: Eugene Oh <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (30 lines)
      From: Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (73 lines)
      From: Chris Curtis <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (45 lines)
      From: Maxime Papillon <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (54 lines)
      From: Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (51 lines)
      From: Jörg Rhiemeier <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (66 lines)
      From: Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (45 lines)
      From: Garth Wallace <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (43 lines)
      From: Daniel Nielsen <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (70 lines)
      From: Eugene Oh <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (42 lines)
      From: Dale McCreery <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (82 lines)
      From: Sam Stutter <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (48 lines)
      From: Roman Rausch <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (46 lines)
      From: taliesin the storyteller <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (75 lines)
      From: Sapthan <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (44 lines)
      From: Nikolay Ivankov <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (36 lines)
      From: Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (38 lines)
      From: Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (42 lines)
      From: Charlie <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (41 lines)
      From: Charlie <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (48 lines)
      From: Roman Rausch <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (75 lines)
      From: Nikolay Ivankov <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (45 lines)
      From: Maxime Papillon <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (70 lines)
      From: Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets <[log in to unmask]>

17. Origin on Quantifiers
    • Origin on Quantifiers (38 lines)
      From: Logan Kearsley <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Origin on Quantifiers (43 lines)
      From: neo gu <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Origin on Quantifiers (47 lines)
      From: Marlon Ribeiro <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Origin on Quantifiers (98 lines)
      From: Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets <[log in to unmask]>

18. OT: chereme (or, is Ray Brown back from his hols yet?)
    • OT: chereme (or, is Ray Brown back from his hols yet?) (29 lines)
      From: And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: OT: chereme (or, is Ray Brown back from his hols yet?) (59 lines)
      From: Padraic Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: OT: chereme (or, is Ray Brown back from his hols yet?) (58 lines)
      From: BPJ <[log in to unmask]>

19. Potentially amusing experiment
    • Re: Potentially amusing experiment (46 lines)
      From: David Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Potentially amusing experiment (112 lines)
      From: Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Potentially amusing experiment (43 lines)
      From: David Peterson <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Potentially amusing experiment (40 lines)
      From: Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Potentially amusing experiment (54 lines)
      From: Maxime Papillon <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Potentially amusing experiment (152 lines)
      From: Padraic Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Potentially amusing experiment (53 lines)
      From: Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Potentially amusing experiment (64 lines)
      From: Padraic Brown <[log in to unmask]>

20. small remark on "Does gjâ-zym-byn violate l inguistic universals?"
    • small remark on "Does gjâ-zym-byn violate l inguistic universals?" (32 lines)
      From: And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>

21. Special Color/Semantic Domain relationships -- was: Re: On Cultural Differences in Color
    • Special Color/Semantic Domain relationships -- was: Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (59 lines)
      From: Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]>
    • Special Color/Semantic Domain relationships -- was: Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (41 lines)
      From: Charlie <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Special Color/Semantic Domain relationships -- was: Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (71 lines)
      From: Nikolay Ivankov <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Special Color/Semantic Domain relationships -- was: Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (81 lines)
      From: Nikolay Ivankov <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Special Color/Semantic Domain relationships -- was: Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (62 lines)
      From: Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Special Color/Semantic Domain relationships -- was: Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (91 lines)
      From: Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Special Color/Semantic Domain relationships -- was: Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (114 lines)
      From: Nikolay Ivankov <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Special Color/Semantic Domain relationships -- was: Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (44 lines)
      From: Paul Schleitwiler, FCM <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Special Color/Semantic Domain relationships -- was: Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (53 lines)
      From: Toms Deimonds Barvidis <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Special Color/Semantic Domain relationships -- was: Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (44 lines)
      From: Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Special Color/Semantic Domain relationships -- was: Re: On Cultural Differences in Color (67 lines)
      From: Herman Miller <[log in to unmask]>

22. Split Ergativity
    • Split Ergativity (37 lines)
      From: vii iiix <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Split Ergativity (54 lines)
      From: David Peterson <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Split Ergativity (123 lines)
      From: Matthew Boutilier <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Split Ergativity (99 lines)
      From: vii iiix <[log in to unmask]>

23. The antiperfect aspect
    • Re: The antiperfect aspect (45 lines)
      From: Garth Wallace <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: The antiperfect aspect (52 lines)
      From: David McCann <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: The antiperfect aspect (80 lines)
      From: Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: The antiperfect aspect (118 lines)
      From: Logan Kearsley <[log in to unmask]>

24. The Empire Strikes Back, told in icons
    • The Empire Strikes Back, told in icons (33 lines)
      From: Eric Christopherson <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: The Empire Strikes Back, told in icons (32 lines)
      From: MorphemeAddict <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: The Empire Strikes Back, told in icons (30 lines)
      From: David McCann <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: The Empire Strikes Back, told in icons (44 lines)
      From: BPJ <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: The Empire Strikes Back, told in icons (33 lines)
      From: Daniel Bowman <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: The Empire Strikes Back, told in icons (34 lines)
      From: Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]>

25. Topic: preverbal/postverbal goodness
    • Re: Topic: preverbal/postverbal goodness (75 lines)
      From: Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Topic: preverbal/postverbal goodness (92 lines)
      From: Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Topic: preverbal/postverbal goodness (110 lines)
      From: David Edwards <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Topic: preverbal/postverbal goodness (189 lines)
      From: A. Mendes <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Topic: preverbal/postverbal goodness (217 lines)
      From: A. Mendes <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Topic: preverbal/postverbal goodness (224 lines)
      From: A. Mendes <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Topic: preverbal/postverbal goodness (249 lines)
      From: A. Mendes <[log in to unmask]>

26. Translating non-base-10 numbers into English (WAS: Counting system)
    • Re: Translating non-base-10 numbers into English (WAS: Counting system) (47 lines)
      From: MorphemeAddict <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Translating non-base-10 numbers into English (WAS: Counting system) (52 lines)
      From: Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Translating non-base-10 numbers into English (WAS: Counting system) (50 lines)
      From: Garth Wallace <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Translating non-base-10 numbers into English (WAS: Counting system) (58 lines)
      From: Sylvia Sotomayor <[log in to unmask]>