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• "A" Personal in Spanish (was - Redundant pronouns, Tagalog, etc.) (5 messages)
• "A" Personal in Spanish (was - Redundant pronouns, Tagalog,etc.) (2 messages)
• "Tagalog,
• "Tagalog, it's got a Trigger System"
• "Tagalog, it's got a Trigger System," She Said (was; QUESTION-New project) (11 messages)
• "Tagalog, it's got a Trigger System," She Said (was; QUESTION...
• A problem solved: Arabisms in Spanish (8 messages)
• A problem solved?!? (4 messages)
• Adverbs vs. prepositions (3 messages)
• Allophones or Separate Phonemes? (3 messages)
• Arabisms in Spanish (15 messages)
• Boston conlangers (2 messages)
• Cerebral consonants & transliterarion (10 messages)
• CHAT: Missing conlanger?
• conculture issues [cross-posted] (7 messages)
• conculture list?
• Constructed natlangs
• Dislocations
• Fasces (was Re: Greekisms in Spanish)
• For translation: A story about strawberries (3 messages)
• Germanic preterite (was: Suppletory forms)
• Greekisms in Spanish (5 messages)
• Homepage update
• My favorite line from the Talossan Language Home Page
• New language: Ranamemi
• News about Tj'a-ts'a~n and the Sky People [very long]
• Nova pages gone again!
• Orhography (and phonology) dilemmas (2 messages)
• Passive voice and impersonal constructions
• Psycho Conlanging Closet Hypnotized --- Film at 11! (4 messages)
• QUESTION-New project
• Redundant pronouns (was: "Tagalog,it's got a Trigger System," She Said) (3 messages)
• Shemdaoli webpage (sort of) (2 messages)
• Speaker Relative Adjectives (12 messages)
• Speaker Relative Adjectives-2
• Speaking the enemy's tongue: (Was: A problem solved: Arabisms in Spanish)
• Suppletory forms (18 messages)
• Temporal Semantics
• Temporal Semantics [revised]
• Tensed Pronouns (was: Tagalog ...) (2 messages)
• The difference between /aw/ and /au/ (3 messages)
• THEORY: Suppletive forms of 'go' in Germanic (2 messages)
• Topic/Focus (was: Valentine's Day Translations) (2 messages)
• topic/focus or theme/rheme (7 messages)
• Translation exercise - children (2 messages)
• Trigger System (was: QUESTION-New project)
• Valentine's Day Translations (6 messages)

1. "A" Personal in Spanish (was - Redundant pronouns, Tagalog, etc.)
   • "A" Personal in Spanish (was - Redundant pronouns, Tagalog, etc.) (31 lines)
     From: Steg Belsky <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: "A" Personal in Spanish (was - Redundant pronouns, Tagalog, etc.) (45 lines)
     From: vardi <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: "A" Personal in Spanish (was - Redundant pronouns, Tagalog, etc.) (34 lines)
     From: Steg Belsky <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: "A" Personal in Spanish (was - Redundant pronouns, Tagalog, etc.) (67 lines)
     From: Christophe Grandsire <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: "A" Personal in Spanish (was - Redundant pronouns, Tagalog, etc.) (37 lines)
     From: Gustavo Eulalio <[log in to unmask]>

2. "A" Personal in Spanish (was - Redundant pronouns, Tagalog,etc.)
   • Re: "A" Personal in Spanish (was - Redundant pronouns, Tagalog,etc.) (50 lines)
     From: Pablo Flores <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: "A" Personal in Spanish (was - Redundant pronouns, Tagalog,etc.) (52 lines)
     From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>

3. "Tagalog,
   • Re: "Tagalog, (21 lines)
     From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>

4. "Tagalog, it's got a Trigger System"
   • "Tagalog, it's got a Trigger System" (30 lines)
     From: Brian Betty <[log in to unmask]>

5. "Tagalog, it's got a Trigger System," She Said (was; QUESTION-New project)
   • "Tagalog, it's got a Trigger System," She Said (was; QUESTION-New project) (44 lines)
     From: Steg Belsky <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: "Tagalog, it's got a Trigger System," She Said (was; QUESTION-New project) (63 lines)
     From: Steg Belsky <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: "Tagalog, it's got a Trigger System," She Said (was; QUESTION-New project) (55 lines)
     From: Sally Caves <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: "Tagalog, it's got a Trigger System," She Said (was; QUESTION-New project) (61 lines)
     From: Kristian Jensen <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: "Tagalog, it's got a Trigger System," She Said (was; QUESTION-New project) (57 lines)
     From: Matt Pearson <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: "Tagalog, it's got a Trigger System," She Said (was; QUESTION-New project) (59 lines)
     From: Tim Smith <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: "Tagalog, it's got a Trigger System," She Said (was; QUESTION-New project) (67 lines)
     From: Steg Belsky <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: "Tagalog, it's got a Trigger System," She Said (was; QUESTION-New project) (65 lines)
     From: Steg Belsky <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: "Tagalog, it's got a Trigger System," She Said (was; QUESTION-New project) (81 lines)
     From: Steg Belsky <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: "Tagalog, it's got a Trigger System," She Said (was; QUESTION-New project) (53 lines)
     From: Tim Smith <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: "Tagalog, it's got a Trigger System," She Said (was; QUESTION-New project) (60 lines)
     From: Douglas Koller <[log in to unmask]>

6. "Tagalog, it's got a Trigger System," She Said (was; QUESTION...
   • Re: "Tagalog, it's got a Trigger System," She Said (was; QUESTION... (38 lines)
     From: list James E. Hopkins <[log in to unmask]>

7. A problem solved: Arabisms in Spanish
   • Re: A problem solved: Arabisms in Spanish (49 lines)
     From: vardi <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A problem solved: Arabisms in Spanish (43 lines)
     From: Carlos Thompson <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A problem solved: Arabisms in Spanish (56 lines)
     From: Pablo Flores <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A problem solved: Arabisms in Spanish (49 lines)
     From: Raymond A. Brown <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A problem solved: Arabisms in Spanish (20 lines)
     From: Orjan Johansen <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A problem solved: Arabisms in Spanish (37 lines)
     From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A problem solved: Arabisms in Spanish (43 lines)
     From: Raymond A. Brown <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A problem solved: Arabisms in Spanish (32 lines)
     From: Carlos Thompson <[log in to unmask]>

8. A problem solved?!?
   • A problem solved?!? (32 lines)
     From: Brian Betty <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A problem solved?!? (66 lines)
     From: vardi <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A problem solved?!? (35 lines)
     From: Raymond A. Brown <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: A problem solved?!? (21 lines)
     From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>

9. Adverbs vs. prepositions
   • Adverbs vs. prepositions (46 lines)
     From: Pablo Flores <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adverbs vs. prepositions (34 lines)
     From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Adverbs vs. prepositions (53 lines)
     From: Pablo Flores <[log in to unmask]>

10. Allophones or Separate Phonemes?
    • Allophones or Separate Phonemes? (113 lines)
      From: Kristian Jensen <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Allophones or Separate Phonemes? (185 lines)
      From: And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Allophones or Separate Phonemes? (163 lines)
      From: Kristian Jensen <[log in to unmask]>

11. Arabisms in Spanish
    • Arabisms in Spanish (46 lines)
      From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Arabisms in Spanish (44 lines)
      From: Steg Belsky <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Arabisms in Spanish (15 lines)
      From: Carlos Thompson <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Arabisms in Spanish (82 lines)
      From: Pablo Flores <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Arabisms in Spanish (51 lines)
      From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Arabisms in Spanish (42 lines)
      From: Padraic Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Arabisms in Spanish (29 lines)
      From: vardi <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Arabisms in Spanish (98 lines)
      From: Christophe Grandsire <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Arabisms in Spanish (28 lines)
      From: Gustavo Eulalio <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Arabisms in Spanish (49 lines)
      From: Pablo Flores <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Arabisms in Spanish (31 lines)
      From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Arabisms in Spanish (23 lines)
      From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Arabisms in Spanish (33 lines)
      From: Steg Belsky <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Arabisms in Spanish (39 lines)
      From: Steg Belsky <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Arabisms in Spanish (19 lines)
      From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>

12. Boston conlangers
    • Boston conlangers (19 lines)
      From: JOEL MATTHEW PEARSON <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Boston conlangers (26 lines)
      From: Sally Caves <[log in to unmask]>

13. Cerebral consonants & transliterarion
    • Re: Cerebral consonants & transliterarion (15 lines)
      From: Sally Caves <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Cerebral consonants & transliterarion (30 lines)
      From: Kristian Jensen <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Cerebral consonants & transliterarion (32 lines)
      From: Daniel Andreasson <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Cerebral consonants & transliterarion (68 lines)
      From: Raymond A. Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Cerebral consonants & transliterarion (19 lines)
      From: Carlos Thompson <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Cerebral consonants & transliterarion (30 lines)
      From: taliesin the storyteller <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Cerebral consonants & transliterarion (24 lines)
      From: Sally Caves <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Cerebral consonants & transliterarion (17 lines)
      From: Pablo Flores <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Cerebral consonants & transliterarion (28 lines)
      From: Sally Caves <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Cerebral consonants & transliterarion (23 lines)
      From: Daniel Andreasson <[log in to unmask]>

14. CHAT: Missing conlanger?
    • Re: CHAT: Missing conlanger? (53 lines)
      From: David E. Bell <[log in to unmask]>

15. conculture issues [cross-posted]
    • conculture issues [cross-posted] (30 lines)
      From: And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: conculture issues [cross-posted] (28 lines)
      From: Orjan Johansen <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: conculture issues [cross-posted] (63 lines)
      From: Kristian Jensen <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: conculture issues [cross-posted] (21 lines)
      From: Irina Rempt <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: conculture issues [cross-posted] (39 lines)
      From: Tony Harris <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: conculture issues [cross-posted] (23 lines)
      From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: conculture issues [cross-posted] (30 lines)
      From: Carlos Thompson <[log in to unmask]>

16. conculture list?
    • Re: conculture list? (25 lines)
      From: list James E. Hopkins <[log in to unmask]>

17. Constructed natlangs
    • Re: Constructed natlangs (24 lines)
      From: Kenji Schwarz <[log in to unmask]>

18. Dislocations
    • Dislocations (32 lines)
      From: Brian Betty <[log in to unmask]>

19. Fasces (was Re: Greekisms in Spanish)
    • Fasces (was Re: Greekisms in Spanish) (29 lines)
      From: Raymond A. Brown <[log in to unmask]>

20. For translation: A story about strawberries
    • For translation: A story about strawberries (175 lines)
      From: Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: For translation: A story about strawberries (28 lines)
      From: Pablo Flores <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: For translation: A story about strawberries (140 lines)
      From: Pablo Flores <[log in to unmask]>

21. Germanic preterite (was: Suppletory forms)
    • Germanic preterite (was: Suppletory forms) (27 lines)
      From: Raymond A. Brown <[log in to unmask]>

22. Greekisms in Spanish
    • Greekisms in Spanish (24 lines)
      From: Brian Betty <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Greekisms in Spanish (32 lines)
      From: Raymond A. Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Greekisms in Spanish (48 lines)
      From: Pablo Flores <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Greekisms in Spanish (32 lines)
      From: Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Greekisms in Spanish (19 lines)
      From: Brian Betty <[log in to unmask]>

23. Homepage update
    • Homepage update (44 lines)
      From: Christophe Grandsire <[log in to unmask]>

24. My favorite line from the Talossan Language Home Page
    • My favorite line from the Talossan Language Home Page (17 lines)
      From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>

25. New language: Ranamemi
    • New language: Ranamemi (17 lines)
      From: Terry Donnelly <[log in to unmask]>

26. News about Tj'a-ts'a~n and the Sky People [very long]
    • News about Tj'a-ts'a~n and the Sky People [very long] (165 lines)
      From: Christophe Grandsire <[log in to unmask]>

27. Nova pages gone again!
    • Nova pages gone again! (17 lines)
      From: Hawksinger <[log in to unmask]>

28. Orhography (and phonology) dilemmas
    • Orhography (and phonology) dilemmas (59 lines)
      From: taliesin the storyteller <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Orhography (and phonology) dilemmas (29 lines)
      From: Kristian Jensen <[log in to unmask]>

29. Passive voice and impersonal constructions
    • Passive voice and impersonal constructions (72 lines)
      From: Irina Rempt <[log in to unmask]>

30. Psycho Conlanging Closet Hypnotized --- Film at 11!
    • Re: Psycho Conlanging Closet Hypnotized --- Film at 11! (34 lines)
      From: Terry Donnelly <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Psycho Conlanging Closet Hypnotized --- Film at 11! (50 lines)
      From: Dan Sulani <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Psycho Conlanging Closet Hypnotized --- Film at 11! (51 lines)
      From: Sally Caves <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Psycho Conlanging Closet Hypnotized --- Film at 11! (33 lines)
      From: Diana Slattery <[log in to unmask]>

31. QUESTION-New project
    • Re: QUESTION-New project (40 lines)
      From: Pablo Flores <[log in to unmask]>

32. Redundant pronouns (was: "Tagalog,it's got a Trigger System," She Said)
    • Re: Redundant pronouns (was: "Tagalog,it's got a Trigger System," She Said) (86 lines)
      From: Pablo Flores <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Redundant pronouns (was: "Tagalog,it's got a Trigger System," She Said) (49 lines)
      From: Matt Pearson <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Redundant pronouns (was: "Tagalog,it's got a Trigger System," She Said) (26 lines)
      From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>

33. Shemdaoli webpage (sort of)
    • Shemdaoli webpage (sort of) (15 lines)
      From: dunn patrick w <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Shemdaoli webpage (sort of) (31 lines)
      From: Diana Slattery <[log in to unmask]>

34. Speaker Relative Adjectives
    • Speaker Relative Adjectives (27 lines)
      From: Joe Mondello <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Speaker Relative Adjectives (67 lines)
      From: vardi <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Speaker Relative Adjectives (14 lines)
      From: Joe Mondello <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Speaker Relative Adjectives (104 lines)
      From: Joe Mondello <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Speaker Relative Adjectives (42 lines)
      From: Pablo Flores <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Speaker Relative Adjectives (32 lines)
      From: Rhialto <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Speaker Relative Adjectives (50 lines)
      From: vardi <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Speaker Relative Adjectives (41 lines)
      From: dunn patrick w <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Speaker Relative Adjectives (29 lines)
      From: dunn patrick w <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Speaker Relative Adjectives (36 lines)
      From: vardi <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Speaker Relative Adjectives (34 lines)
      From: Dan Sulani <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Speaker Relative Adjectives (28 lines)
      From: Orjan Johansen <[log in to unmask]>

35. Speaker Relative Adjectives-2
    • Speaker Relative Adjectives-2 (78 lines)
      From: Jim Grossmann <[log in to unmask]>

36. Speaking the enemy's tongue: (Was: A problem solved: Arabisms in Spanish)
    • Re: Speaking the enemy's tongue: (Was: A problem solved: Arabisms in Spanish) (41 lines)
      From: vardi <[log in to unmask]>

37. Suppletory forms
    • Suppletory forms (24 lines)
      From: Pablo Flores <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Suppletory forms (30 lines)
      From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Suppletory forms (28 lines)
      From: Steg Belsky <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Suppletory forms (43 lines)
      From: Carlos Thompson <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Suppletory forms (30 lines)
      From: Josh Brandt-Young <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Suppletory forms (59 lines)
      From: Pablo Flores <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Suppletory forms (21 lines)
      From: Lars Henrik Mathiesen <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Suppletory forms (34 lines)
      From: Steg Belsky <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Suppletory forms (36 lines)
      From: Steg Belsky <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Suppletory forms (26 lines)
      From: Irina Rempt <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Suppletory forms (27 lines)
      From: Raymond A. Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Suppletory forms (48 lines)
      From: Pablo Flores <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Suppletory forms (26 lines)
      From: Carlos Thompson <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Suppletory forms (20 lines)
      From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Suppletory forms (24 lines)
      From: Pablo Flores <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Suppletory forms (29 lines)
      From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Suppletory forms (38 lines)
      From: Steg Belsky <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Suppletory forms (26 lines)
      From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>

38. Temporal Semantics
    • Temporal Semantics (82 lines)
      From: •—ˆŸ”üˆÀ <[log in to unmask]>

39. Temporal Semantics [revised]
    • Temporal Semantics [revised] (192 lines)
      From: Rhialto <[log in to unmask]>

40. Tensed Pronouns (was: Tagalog ...)
    • Tensed Pronouns (was: Tagalog ...) (25 lines)
      From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Tensed Pronouns (was: Tagalog ...) (52 lines)
      From: Tim Smith <[log in to unmask]>

41. The difference between /aw/ and /au/
    • The difference between /aw/ and /au/ (13 lines)
      From: Kristian Jensen <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: The difference between /aw/ and /au/ (32 lines)
      From: Danny Wier <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: The difference between /aw/ and /au/ (19 lines)
      From: Rhialto <[log in to unmask]>

42. THEORY: Suppletive forms of 'go' in Germanic
    • Re: THEORY: Suppletive forms of 'go' in Germanic (45 lines)
      From: Lars Henrik Mathiesen <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: THEORY: Suppletive forms of 'go' in Germanic (58 lines)
      From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>

43. Topic/Focus (was: Valentine's Day Translations)
    • Topic/Focus (was: Valentine's Day Translations) (155 lines)
      From: Kristian Jensen <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Topic/Focus (was: Valentine's Day Translations) (25 lines)
      From: Kristian Jensen <[log in to unmask]>

44. topic/focus or theme/rheme
    • topic/focus or theme/rheme (106 lines)
      From: Christophe Grandsire <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: topic/focus or theme/rheme (75 lines)
      From: Raymond A. Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: topic/focus or theme/rheme (85 lines)
      From: Tim Smith <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: topic/focus or theme/rheme (158 lines)
      From: Raymond A. Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: topic/focus or theme/rheme (21 lines)
      From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: topic/focus or theme/rheme (50 lines)
      From: Raymond A. Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: topic/focus or theme/rheme (98 lines)
      From: Tim Smith <[log in to unmask]>

45. Translation exercise - children
    • Translation exercise - children (75 lines)
      From: Irina Rempt <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Translation exercise - children (89 lines)
      From: Pablo Flores <[log in to unmask]>

46. Trigger System (was: QUESTION-New project)
    • Trigger System (was: QUESTION-New project) (107 lines)
      From: Kristian Jensen <[log in to unmask]>

47. Valentine's Day Translations
    • Re: Valentine's Day Translations (18 lines)
      From: Pablo Flores <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Valentine's Day Translations (27 lines)
      From: Garrett <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Valentine's Day Translations (33 lines)
      From: Danny Wier <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Valentine's Day Translations (30 lines)
      From: list James E. Hopkins <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Valentine's Day Translations (29 lines)
      From: Daniel Andreasson <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Valentine's Day Translations (32 lines)
      From: Andrew Smith <[log in to unmask]>