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• "Pater Noster" Website (4 messages)
• 'Women's Only' Language Found Among Chinese (5 messages)
• A look at the new version of Kelen
• A slightly less forbidden experiment? (was Re: The Forbidden Experiment)
• Alphabet searching (5 messages)
• Betreft: Re: 'Women's Only' Language Found Among Chinese (3 messages)
• CHAT: Champaign!
• CHAT: Congregationalism & Religious Terms In Dublex (was Turtledove (was: RE: Nov 11th))
• CHAT: Congregationalism & Religious Terms In Dublex (wasTurtledove (was: RE: Nov 11th)) (3 messages)
• CHAT: Re: Conlang T-Shirt Dead? (2 messages)
• CHAT: Tolkien (was Re: fantasy) (2 messages)
• Conlang Gender (was Re: Writing Systems and Biscriptal Children
• Conlang Persecution
• Conlang T-Shirt Dead? (4 messages)
• Cultural Keywords Revisited. (2 messages)
• Differences between Elves and Humans
• Dwarves and all. (5 messages)
• English American vs British/20 words (2 messages)
• Exiting the mode of lurk.
• fantasy (was: Re: history of conlanging) (4 messages)
• Gnomenclature [was fantasy (was: Re: history of conlanging)]
• Help desiging a minimal conlang? (3 messages)
• Help with the phonological development of English?
• history of conlanging
• Inadvertent Conlangers (2 messages)
• Klingon and all.
• Language revival (24 messages)
• Language revival (was Re: Which auxlangs? (was Re: Iwon't[to]start a flame war)) (2 messages)
• Language revival (was Re: Which auxlangs? (was Re:Iwon't[to]start a flame war))
• Larkhive: request for archives
• Minimal Lingos
• New Language Sketch (was Re: Conlang Gender) (7 messages)
• Nu Shu (3 messages)
• OFF: Eddie Izzard (Re: CHAT: Champaign!) (4 messages)
• quirky case (was: Re: New Language Sketch)
• Rectification (was Re: Fantasy/Tolkien)
• Some bits from my conlang....
• Spelling Changes in English and how to do it. (7 messages)
• The Forbidden Experiment
• THEORY: Conlanging as reverse Sapir-Whorf? (3 messages)
• THEORY: sound change (was RE: Language revival) (2 messages)
• THEORY: storage v computation (was: RE: Language revival) (3 messages)
• Time travelling comp [was: RE: Alphabet searching]
• USAGE: RE: Language revival (5 messages)
• USAGE: Re: Language revival (2 messages)
• USAGE: RE: Language revival (3 messages)
• V2
• Writing Systems and Biscriptal Children (9 messages)
• [TEE] Re: I won't start a flame warRe: Conlang T-Shirt

1. "Pater Noster" Website
   • "Pater Noster" Website (21 lines)
     From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: "Pater Noster" Website (18 lines)
     From: Thomas R. Wier <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: "Pater Noster" Website (38 lines)
     From: Sally Caves <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: "Pater Noster" Website (36 lines)
     From: Thomas R. Wier <[log in to unmask]>

2. 'Women's Only' Language Found Among Chinese
   • 'Women's Only' Language Found Among Chinese (28 lines)
     From: Amanda Babcock <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: 'Women's Only' Language Found Among Chinese (19 lines)
     From: taliesin the storyteller <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: 'Women's Only' Language Found Among Chinese (45 lines)
     From: Kristian Jensen <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: 'Women's Only' Language Found Among Chinese (19 lines)
     From: Boudewijn Rempt <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: 'Women's Only' Language Found Among Chinese (15 lines)
     From: Amanda Babcock <[log in to unmask]>

3. A look at the new version of Kelen
   • A look at the new version of Kelen (75 lines)
     From: Sylvia Sotomayor <[log in to unmask]>

4. A slightly less forbidden experiment? (was Re: The Forbidden Experiment)
   • A slightly less forbidden experiment? (was Re: The Forbidden Experiment) (55 lines)
     From: Paul Bennett <[log in to unmask]>

5. Alphabet searching
   • Re: Alphabet searching (30 lines)
     From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Alphabet searching (41 lines)
     From: FFlores <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Alphabet searching (68 lines)
     From: Sally Caves <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Alphabet searching (31 lines)
     From: Grandsire, C.A. <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Alphabet searching (40 lines)
     From: Roland Hoensch <[log in to unmask]>

6. Betreft: Re: 'Women's Only' Language Found Among Chinese
   • Betreft: Re: 'Women's Only' Language Found Among Chinese (47 lines)
     From: Rob Nierse <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: Betreft: Re: 'Women's Only' Language Found Among Chinese (42 lines)
     From: Kristian Jensen <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re(2): Betreft: Re: 'Women's Only' Language Found Among Chinese (33 lines)
     From: Barry Garcia <[log in to unmask]>

7. CHAT: Champaign!
   • CHAT: Champaign! (29 lines)
     From: Grandsire, C.A. <[log in to unmask]>

8. CHAT: Congregationalism & Religious Terms In Dublex (was Turtledove (was: RE: Nov 11th))
   • Re: CHAT: Congregationalism & Religious Terms In Dublex (was Turtledove (was: RE: Nov 11th)) (38 lines)
     From: Bryan Maloney <[log in to unmask]>

9. CHAT: Congregationalism & Religious Terms In Dublex (wasTurtledove (was: RE: Nov 11th))
   • Re: CHAT: Congregationalism & Religious Terms In Dublex (wasTurtledove (was: RE: Nov 11th)) (22 lines)
     From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: CHAT: Congregationalism & Religious Terms In Dublex (wasTurtledove (was: RE: Nov 11th)) (28 lines)
     From: Bryan Maloney <[log in to unmask]>
   • Re: CHAT: Congregationalism & Religious Terms In Dublex (wasTurtledove (was: RE: Nov 11th)) (71 lines)
     From: Jeffrey Henning <[log in to unmask]>

10. CHAT: Re: Conlang T-Shirt Dead?
    • CHAT: Re: Conlang T-Shirt Dead? (25 lines)
      From: Roland Hoensch <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: CHAT: Re: Conlang T-Shirt Dead? (30 lines)
      From: Sally Caves <[log in to unmask]>

11. CHAT: Tolkien (was Re: fantasy)
    • Re: CHAT: Tolkien (was Re: fantasy) (41 lines)
      From: Jeffrey Henning <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: CHAT: Tolkien (was Re: fantasy) (25 lines)
      From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>

12. Conlang Gender (was Re: Writing Systems and Biscriptal Children
    • Conlang Gender (was Re: Writing Systems and Biscriptal Children (33 lines)
      From: Patrick Dunn <[log in to unmask]>

13. Conlang Persecution
    • Conlang Persecution (40 lines)
      From: Sally Caves <[log in to unmask]>

14. Conlang T-Shirt Dead?
    • Conlang T-Shirt Dead? (10 lines)
      From: Dr. David E. Bell <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Conlang T-Shirt Dead? (36 lines)
      From: Sally Caves <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Conlang T-Shirt Dead? (23 lines)
      From: Amanda Babcock <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Conlang T-Shirt Dead? (34 lines)
      From: Daniel Andreasson <[log in to unmask]>

15. Cultural Keywords Revisited.
    • Re: Cultural Keywords Revisited. (51 lines)
      From: Padraic Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re(2): Cultural Keywords Revisited. (32 lines)
      From: Barry Garcia <[log in to unmask]>

16. Differences between Elves and Humans
    • Differences between Elves and Humans (18 lines)
      From: abrigon <[log in to unmask]>

17. Dwarves and all.
    • Dwarves and all. (17 lines)
      From: abrigon <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Dwarves and all. (27 lines)
      From: Padraic Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Dwarves and all. (48 lines)
      From: Raymond Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Dwarves and all. (27 lines)
      From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Dwarves and all. (39 lines)
      From: Raymond Brown <[log in to unmask]>

18. English American vs British/20 words
    • English American vs British/20 words (32 lines)
      From: abrigon <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: English American vs British/20 words (23 lines)
      From: nicole perrin <[log in to unmask]>

19. Exiting the mode of lurk.
    • Exiting the mode of lurk. (22 lines)
      From: byron walker <[log in to unmask]>

20. fantasy (was: Re: history of conlanging)
    • Re: fantasy (was: Re: history of conlanging) (24 lines)
      From: Jeffrey Henning <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: fantasy (was: Re: history of conlanging) (36 lines)
      From: Steg Belsky <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: fantasy (was: Re: history of conlanging) (22 lines)
      From: Steg Belsky <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: fantasy (was: Re: history of conlanging) (27 lines)
      From: And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>

21. Gnomenclature [was fantasy (was: Re: history of conlanging)]
    • Gnomenclature [was fantasy (was: Re: history of conlanging)] (29 lines)
      From: Jeffrey Henning <[log in to unmask]>

22. Help desiging a minimal conlang?
    • Re: Help desiging a minimal conlang? (57 lines)
      From: Paul Bennett <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Help desiging a minimal conlang? (56 lines)
      From: taliesin the storyteller <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Help desiging a minimal conlang? (76 lines)
      From: Paul Bennett <[log in to unmask]>

23. Help with the phonological development of English?
    • Re: Help with the phonological development of English? (22 lines)
      From: Clinton Moreland-Stringham <[log in to unmask]>

24. history of conlanging
    • Re: history of conlanging (18 lines)
      From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>

25. Inadvertent Conlangers
    • Inadvertent Conlangers (69 lines)
      From: Ed Heil <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Inadvertent Conlangers (93 lines)
      From: Sally Caves <[log in to unmask]>

26. Klingon and all.
    • Klingon and all. (21 lines)
      From: abrigon <[log in to unmask]>

27. Language revival
    • Re: Language revival (22 lines)
      From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (32 lines)
      From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (33 lines)
      From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (42 lines)
      From: Raymond Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (27 lines)
      From: nicole perrin <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (55 lines)
      From: Padraic Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (22 lines)
      From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (25 lines)
      From: nicole perrin <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (51 lines)
      From: Raymond Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (35 lines)
      From: Ed Heil <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (20 lines)
      From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (21 lines)
      From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (29 lines)
      From: nicole perrin <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (22 lines)
      From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (23 lines)
      From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re(2): Language revival (12 lines)
      From: Barry Garcia <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (20 lines)
      From: Patrick Dunn <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (26 lines)
      From: Padraic Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (13 lines)
      From: Thomas R. Wier <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (23 lines)
      From: Bryan Maloney <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (25 lines)
      From: FFlores <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (24 lines)
      From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (23 lines)
      From: Thomas R. Wier <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (28 lines)
      From: Thomas R. Wier <[log in to unmask]>

28. Language revival (was Re: Which auxlangs? (was Re: Iwon't[to]start a flame war))
    • Re: Language revival (was Re: Which auxlangs? (was Re: Iwon't[to]start a flame war)) (31 lines)
      From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Language revival (was Re: Which auxlangs? (was Re: Iwon't[to]start a flame war)) (32 lines)
      From: And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>

29. Language revival (was Re: Which auxlangs? (was Re:Iwon't[to]start a flame war))
    • Re: Language revival (was Re: Which auxlangs? (was Re:Iwon't[to]start a flame war)) (29 lines)
      From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>

30. Larkhive: request for archives
    • Larkhive: request for archives (40 lines)
      From: taliesin the storyteller <[log in to unmask]>

31. Minimal Lingos
    • Minimal Lingos (17 lines)
      From: abrigon <[log in to unmask]>

32. New Language Sketch (was Re: Conlang Gender)
    • New Language Sketch (was Re: Conlang Gender) (78 lines)
      From: nicole perrin <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: New Language Sketch (was Re: Conlang Gender) (32 lines)
      From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: New Language Sketch (was Re: Conlang Gender) (71 lines)
      From: Thomas R. Wier <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: New Language Sketch (was Re: Conlang Gender) (53 lines)
      From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: New Language Sketch (was Re: Conlang Gender) (31 lines)
      From: Thomas R. Wier <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: New Language Sketch (was Re: Conlang Gender) (54 lines)
      From: nicole perrin <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re(2): New Language Sketch (was Re: Conlang Gender) (19 lines)
      From: Barry Garcia <[log in to unmask]>

33. Nu Shu
    • Nu Shu (22 lines)
      From: Ed Heil <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Nu Shu (22 lines)
      From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Nu Shu (36 lines)
      From: Gerald Koenig <[log in to unmask]>

34. OFF: Eddie Izzard (Re: CHAT: Champaign!)
    • OFF: Eddie Izzard (Re: CHAT: Champaign!) (63 lines)
      From: Paul Bennett <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: OFF: Eddie Izzard (Re: CHAT: Champaign!) (92 lines)
      From: Grandsire, C.A. <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: OFF: Eddie Izzard (Re: CHAT: Champaign!) (193 lines)
      From: Paul Bennett <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: OFF: Eddie Izzard (Re: CHAT: Champaign!) (56 lines)
      From: Grandsire, C.A. <[log in to unmask]>

35. quirky case (was: Re: New Language Sketch)
    • quirky case (was: Re: New Language Sketch) (57 lines)
      From: Matt Pearson <[log in to unmask]>

36. Rectification (was Re: Fantasy/Tolkien)
    • Re: Rectification (was Re: Fantasy/Tolkien) (34 lines)
      From: Grandsire, C.A. <[log in to unmask]>

37. Some bits from my conlang....
    • Some bits from my conlang.... (46 lines)
      From: Barry Garcia <[log in to unmask]>

38. Spelling Changes in English and how to do it.
    • Spelling Changes in English and how to do it. (20 lines)
      From: abrigon <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Spelling Changes in English and how to do it. (28 lines)
      From: Charles <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Spelling Changes in English and how to do it. (24 lines)
      From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Spelling Changes in English and how to do it. (26 lines)
      From: Padraic Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Spelling Changes in English and how to do it. (13 lines)
      From: Bryan Maloney <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Spelling Changes in English and how to do it. (56 lines)
      From: Thomas R. Wier <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Spelling Changes in English and how to do it. (35 lines)
      From: Charles <[log in to unmask]>

39. The Forbidden Experiment
    • Re: The Forbidden Experiment (21 lines)
      From: Bryan Maloney <[log in to unmask]>

40. THEORY: Conlanging as reverse Sapir-Whorf?
    • Re: THEORY: Conlanging as reverse Sapir-Whorf? (28 lines)
      From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: THEORY: Conlanging as reverse Sapir-Whorf? (66 lines)
      From: Grandsire, C.A. <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: THEORY: Conlanging as reverse Sapir-Whorf? (25 lines)
      From: Jeffrey Henning <[log in to unmask]>

41. THEORY: sound change (was RE: Language revival)
    • Re: THEORY: sound change (was RE: Language revival) (28 lines)
      From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: THEORY: sound change (was RE: Language revival) (35 lines)
      From: And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>

42. THEORY: storage v computation (was: RE: Language revival)
    • Re: THEORY: storage v computation (was: RE: Language revival) (23 lines)
      From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: THEORY: storage v computation (was: RE: Language revival) (30 lines)
      From: And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: THEORY: storage v computation (was: RE: Language revival) (40 lines)
      From: David G. Durand <[log in to unmask]>

43. Time travelling comp [was: RE: Alphabet searching]
    • Time travelling comp [was: RE: Alphabet searching] (25 lines)
      From: FFlores <[log in to unmask]>

44. USAGE: RE: Language revival
    • USAGE: RE: Language revival (76 lines)
      From: And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: USAGE: RE: Language revival (50 lines)
      From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: USAGE: RE: Language revival (84 lines)
      From: Raymond Brown <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: USAGE: RE: Language revival (20 lines)
      From: John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: USAGE: RE: Language revival (25 lines)
      From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>

45. USAGE: Re: Language revival
    • USAGE: Re: Language revival (24 lines)
      From: nicole perrin <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: USAGE: Re: Language revival (20 lines)
      From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>

46. USAGE: RE: Language revival
    • Re: USAGE: RE: Language revival (23 lines)
      From: Thomas R. Wier <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: USAGE: RE: Language revival (27 lines)
      From: Steg Belsky <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: USAGE: RE: Language revival (25 lines)
      From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>

47. V2
    • Re: V2 (25 lines)
      From: Jeffrey Henning <[log in to unmask]>

48. Writing Systems and Biscriptal Children
    • Writing Systems and Biscriptal Children (47 lines)
      From: nicole perrin <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Writing Systems and Biscriptal Children (23 lines)
      From: Barry Garcia <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Writing Systems and Biscriptal Children (34 lines)
      From: Barry Garcia <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Writing Systems and Biscriptal Children (22 lines)
      From: Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Writing Systems and Biscriptal Children (50 lines)
      From: Patrick Dunn <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Writing Systems and Biscriptal Children (15 lines)
      From: Patrick Dunn <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Writing Systems and Biscriptal Children (35 lines)
      From: andrew <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re: Writing Systems and Biscriptal Children (27 lines)
      From: Herman Miller <[log in to unmask]>
    • Re(2): Writing Systems and Biscriptal Children (19 lines)
      From: Barry Garcia <[log in to unmask]>

49. [TEE] Re: I won't start a flame warRe: Conlang T-Shirt
    • Re: [TEE] Re: I won't start a flame warRe: Conlang T-Shirt (21 lines)
      From: Amanda Babcock <[log in to unmask]>