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On 9 July 2012 00:11, George Corley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> There's a lot of other things that can occur with this sort of thing, such
> as screwing with comic timing and punch lines, screwing up a revelation by
> giving up a name too early, etc. Have any of you seen particularly
> noticeable examples of this?
>
Definitely! I watch a lot of fansubs (big Japanese anime and live action
fan here! :P), and even did some subtitle timing in the past, and the big
differences between Japanese and English make it prone for such problems.
That's unavoidable when you go from a strictly verb-final language to an
SVO language. The most common issue is when a character starts a long
sentence, pauses just before the verb, and then utters a verb that is *not*
what was expected (usually putting in in the negative with the suffix -nai,
rather than the affirmative as expected). This feeling of last second
surprise is *extremely* difficult to catch in English subtitles without
using sentence constructions that can easily feel contrived or even
unnatural (sometimes bordering on Yoda-speak :P).
Another issue common in anime is sentences that are started by one
character and finished by another (somehow, _nakama_ in anime always seem
to know exactly what they have in each other's minds, and can finish each
other's sentences better than the most loving couples :P). Because word
order in English and Japanese is so different, the subtitle often ends
making the different characters say different things from what they
actually said (for instance having the first character utter the verb when
it's actually the second one that did). Most times it's not a problem, but
sometimes the translation has to be changed when it's actually relevant who
says what. Those can be true headaches for translators. The best fansubbers
manage to create translations that feel right while making the right
character say the right thing, but it's not always possible.
--
Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets.
http://christophoronomicon.blogspot.com/
http://www.christophoronomicon.nl/
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