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CONLANG  November 2002, Week 3

CONLANG November 2002, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Vocab 2.3 - Trentish

From:

Muke Tever <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:56:52 -0500

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Yeah, this would be sooner, but I spent most of my conlanging time this week
upgrading my trentish roots generator to match my workflow... It used to
generate one root, and mutate it through two stages, which I would write down,
then do again till I had three, then choose the most fitting, [as a compromise
between "language is arbitrary labels" vs. "Trentish sounds like what I want it
to"] and write an HTML bit for it in the lexicon file... now it does three roots
at once (duh) and generates the HTML automatically, so I just have to put in
part-of-speech and definition.  :-)

Anyway... here's what I got so far:

From: "Aidan Grey" <[log in to unmask]>
> 1. president

<nò'ukwa> /nO?ukwA/
One whose job (nò) is to stand up ('u) in front of (kwa) the people.
(sort-of-calquing 'prae-sidere')

> 2. office

<shëlongalë> /SVloNAlV/
Place (lë) for duty or responsibility (shëlonga).

>      The president whose office is oval has moved to the country.

=========================================================
Nò'ukwa 'sholluchishëlongallëshanòpa luumòwutwu pùùcwixe.
=========================================================

nO?ukwA   ?-Solluchi-SVloNAl-lV-SAnO=pA luu-mOwutwu    p-UU-cw-ixV
president POS-oval-office-PRT-have=TOP  to-countryside PERF-MID-move-1/3

<sholluchi>
Shaped (sholi) like an egg (luchi) = oval

>      (I swear this juxtaposition was random)

========================================
(Numakotakkotta xëpa tliloanwixë ttakke)
========================================

numA-kotAk'ot'A xV=pA    tKi-loA-Nw-ixV        t'Ak'e
without-design  this=TOP XERG-put-together-1/3 swear

> 3. trap

<sjappshiphe> /sjAp'Siphe/
Tool (sja-) for trapping (ppshiphe).

>      The hunter whose trap was empty is angry.

===============================================
Nònguppshe sjanwasjappshiphlëshanòpa kkshiñixë.
===============================================

nO-Nup'Se sjANwA-sjAp'Siph-lV-SAnO=pA   k'SiJ-ixV
OCC-hunt  empty-trap-PRT-have=TOP       angry-1/3

<sjanwa> /sjANwA/
= empty

<kkshiñi> /k'SiJi/
= be angry

> 4. operate

<seppu'epha> /sep'u?ephA/
To heal (seppu'ë) using (e) tools (pha).

<tta> /t'A/
To use.

>      He operated on her.

==================
Poxinseppu'ephixë.
==================

po-xin-sep'u?eph-ixV
PERF-3-operate-1/3

>      He knows how to operate a well/pump.

====================
Isjamulwëlittùxë su.
====================

i-sjamulwVli-t'-U-xV su
FICT-pump-use-3A-3A  know:how

[I'm not exactly sure how to differentiate 3B/3A (observer != agent) from 3A/3A
(observer == agent) yet, so they're both -ùxë for now.]

<mulwëli>
= to pump

It might actually be better to just say "imulwëlùxë su", but then we wouldn't
get to use "use", now would we?)

> 5. idea
>      Whose idea was that?

========================
ëlëlapa 'uushanixë 'una?
========================

VlVlA=pA ?uu-SAn-ixV   ?unA
idea=TOP PASS-have-1/3 which?

> 6. blame
>      The girl whose dress is torn blames you.

=========================================
Jino lëmjitlakkshilëshanòpa lusji'wamixë.
=========================================

jino  lV-mjitKA-k'Si-lV-SAnO=pA     lusji-?wAm-ixV
child PRT-tear-garment-PRT-have=TOP 2-blame-1/3

[I have a kind of idea that these long words might be visually separated into
simpler forms in writing, therefore:  <lëmjitlakkshi-lëshanopa>.]

[If she's blaming you *for* tearing the dress:]

===========================
Jinopa pokkshi-mjitlùlu 'ja.
===========================

jino=pA   po-k'Si-mjitK-U-lu     ?jA
child=TOP PERF-garment-tear-3A/2 accuse

> 7. descriptive

<'lis> /?lis/

Telling ('li) about (-s).

>      The guy whose writing is very descriptive will probably win awards.

======================================================
U ngu'lisshyk-lëshanòpa twongolungotlusheja-kheò'lixë.
======================================================

u      Nu-?l-i-s-Syk-lV-SAnO=pA              two-NoluNotluSeja-kheO?l-ixV
person very-descriptive-writing-PRT-have=TOP PROB-award-win-1/3

<ngolungotlusheja>
Thing (sheja) representing one's worthiness or valor (ngolu-ngotlu).

[ngolungotlu derived from ngotlu = merit, be worth.]

> 8. upright

<sjekkushëxa> /sjek'uSVxA/

On (sje) one's [own] (-ë-xa) feet (kkushe).

>      It stood upright against the wall.

==============================
Sjekkushëxa ngatlushesi kwixë.
==============================

sje-k'uS-V-xA     NAtlu-Sesi   kw-ixV
on-foot-POSS-REFL against-wall be-1/3

> 9. everything

<twaë> /twAV/
= all

>      Everything is as messed up!

(as messed up as *what*?)

==========================
Twaëpa 'lolulëlatha kwixë!
==========================

twaV=pA ?lolu-lV-lAtha kw-ixV
all=TOP EQ-PRT-ruin    be-1/3

> 10. own

I don't know if this might translate directly.  Trentish shouldn't have
reflexives for emphasis like in the second example, and for possession would say
it was in stuff (appen) or property (sumwu).

>      The old woman who owns that cat is really mean.

====================================================
Chelepa, angsumwëxa ñalale kwixë, kko'etla ngatlixë.
====================================================

chele=pA       AN-sumw-V-xA          JAlAle kw-ixV  k'o?etKA NAtK-ixV
old:woman=TOP, in-property-POSS-REFL cat    be-1/3, EXC      mean-1/3.

>      I can barely see my own hand in front of my face.

This one is making my brain hurt.  [just the semantics of 'barely' are a pain to
consider...]

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