----- Original Message -----
From: "Tristan McLeay" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 3:43 AM
Subject: Re: Umlauts (was Re: Elves and Ill Bethisad)


> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Phillip Driscoll wrote:
>
> > Adam Walker wrote:
> > >
> > > It grates.  Sorta like the increasingly common
> > > spelling of cafe as c-a-f-e-'. Yes, with an apostrophe
> > > at the end rather than no mark at all or an acute over
> > > the e.
> >
> > Back in the 1970s, I used to print business cards on an
> > old press in my garage. Several people ordered cards
> > from me to advertise their services doing macramé. They
> > always spelled it m-a-c-r-a-m-e-' with an apostrophe
> > (which I corrected when I set the type).
>
> There's a café on my way home from the train station. It's apparently
> called Socrate's Café, but they have so many different ways of setting the
> apostrophe and acute that I'm not sure---including using an acute accent
> for the apstrophe (where the apostrophe should be) and a (curved)
> apostrophe for the acute (where the acute should be). They never have
> <Cafe'>, though. Mostly either <Cafe> or <Caf'e>.

Somewhat like in Esperanto: ĉiuĵaŭde, c^iuj^a~ude, ^ciu^jau~de, chiujhaude,
etc.

>
> > Over the years, I've become amazed at the number of
> > people who have a four-year college degree, but have
> > never taken as much as one semester of a foreign
> > language in either college or high school. Invariably
> > they believe that learning another language simply
> > consists of memorizing long lists of corresponding
> > words with no thought that the grammars might be
> > different.
>
> Really? Here (Victoria Australia) it's compulsory to do a foreign language
> for some of secondary school (and I think all of primary school, I haven't
> met anyone who didn't).
>
> --
> Tristan.
>