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on 4/17/07 5:14 AM, Patrick Littell at [log in to unmask] wrote:
> On 4/17/07, andrew <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> On Monday 16 April 2007 11:43 pm, Henrik Theiling wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Hanuman Zhang writes:
>>>> ...
>>>> Lately I have been ponderin' the idea of a parallel/futuristic
>>>> Mayan-like conlang called Xibalbatecatl...
>>>
>>> The name looks like more like Aztecan. I was thinking about a
>>> Nahuatl-phonology language recently, too. The grammar will be
>>> totally different, though.
>>>
>> A quick check shows that Xibalba is a name from Mayan mythology, the
>> home of the Lords of Death defeated by the heroes. I cannot speculate
>> on the second half of the name of Hanuman's language.
>>
>
> -tecatl is, so far as I can tell, the way you derive words (nouns?
> adjectives?) meaning "from X". So "Xibalbatecatl" would mean "from
> Xibalba", or something like that.
>
> I believe it's the source of all the "-tec" words for people down
> there: Toltec, Zapotec, Yucatec, Aztec, etc.
>
> -- Pat
That is exactly what I have gathered from the etymology description in the
OED's entry on _Nahuatl_ & scanning all the websearch material I have
gathered so far.
And yeah Xibalba is the Mayan Hades as depicted/described in the _Popol
Vuh_.
Evidentally the Tzotzil people didn't/do not care for the _Popol Vuh_
version of things.
They hero-worship Zotz _their_ Demon Bat God who is one of the Lords of
Xibalba.
And it is interesting to note that the Tzotzil people & related peoples all
live in Chiapas, Mexico... the centre of the Zapatista movement.
Go figger...
All Hail Zotz! :D
Viva Zapata!
--
Hanuman Zhang
"A conservative is one who admires radicals centuries
after they're dead." - Leo Rosten
"There is no total revolution, there is only _perpetual_ Revolution, real
life, like love, dazzling at every moment." ~ Paul Eluard
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