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Andreas Johansson wrote:
>Quoting Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]>:
> > Indonesian surely got them both from Dutch: emmer and kalkoen [kalkun]--
>Du.
> > "kalkoen" looks kind-of foreign, I wonder if it's via Turkish or perhaps
> > Arabic. Finnish I think more likely borrows from German or Swedish--
>does
> > "[kalkun]" or some such occur in those langs.?
>
>The bird's called _kalkon_ /kal'ku:n/ in Swedish. A check in the dictionary
>tells me its from Dutch, and that the Dutch form is short for _kalkoensche
>haan_
>(presumably _kalkoense_ in modern Dutch?), meaning "hen of Calicut".
>
Whaddya know. Thanks. Where did Europeans get the idea that the turkey came
from the East? Just because of it's rather baroque appearance? In French I
believe it's also called [something-- peacock?] d'Inde, or simply dinde, or
dindon. I remember a French speaker making fun of the Quebecker
pronunciation [dind@].
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