On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Gabriel Bodard
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> No reason not to tag example 1 this way if that fits with your markup
> scheme, but it doesn't work for my second example.
>
No - and I didn't even address your second example in my reply  :-/

Put in the feature request, it appears to be needed!

Dot

> I also (as I hinted) don't like the idea of <am> inside <hi> so much, partly
>  because of the different roles that the two elements perform in the markup,
> but most importantly because there may be more than one character inside
> <am> and not all of them may be <hi>.
>
> In any case, as others have noted, there are all sorts of scenarios in which
> one or more of the characters inside <am> may be unclear, supplied, added,
> deleted, damaged, or otherwise necessitating of tagging.
>
> (I presume that <am> was designed this way to be parallel with <ex>, which
> latter is it much more convincing to argue that it should not contain
> markup.)
>
> G
>
> Dot Porter a écrit :
>>
>> My understanding of <am> is that it would take the place of <hi> in
>> the instances where the rendition of <hi> actually indicates the
>> abbreviation (sorry, that sounds more convoluted than I mean it to).
>> So in your example:
>>
>> <abbr>N<hi rend="superscript">o</hi></abbr>
>>
>> I would tag as
>>
>> <abbr>N<am rend="superscript">o</am></abbr>
>>
>> You make a good point about those instances where the rendition of
>> <hi> doesn't actually have to do with the abbreviation. Let's say that
>> the "o" in your example is both superscript (indicating an
>> abbreviation) and underlined (for some other reason). I would
>> definitely want to keep those two issues separate, and this would
>> necessitate a <hi> separate from <am>. However, <am> is allowed inside
>> <hi>, and <hi> is allowed inside <abbr>, so it seems that the simpler
>> alternative would be to simply place the <am> inside <hi>:
>>
>> <abbr>N<hi rend="underlined"><am rend="superscript">o</am></hi></abbr>
>>
>>  Is there a reason not to do it this way?
>>
>> Dot
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Gabriel Bodard
>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am wondering why the (relatively new) element <am> is not able to take
>>>  any elements as content (other than <g>).
>>>
>>>  <am> (abbreviation marker) contains a sequence of letters or signs
>>>  present in an abbreviation which are omitted or replaced in the
>>>  expanded form of the abbreviation.
>>>
>>> So what if this sequence of letters is highlighted in some way in the
>>> original, say superscript or underlined? For example:
>>>
>>> <abbr>N<hi rend="superscript">o</hi></abbr>
>>> becomes
>>> <expan>number</expan>
>>>
>>> I cannot validly tag this <abbr>N<am><hi>o</hi></am></abbr>. (And I feel
>>> less comfortable about putting the <hi> around the <am>, for various
>>> reasons.
>>>
>>> Another example:
>>>
>>> <abbr>AVG<am>G<del>G</del></am></abbr>
>>> becomes
>>> <expan>Augusti tres</expan> (or "duo" after the erasure).
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any existing solution to this problem? Would anyone have
>>> any strong arguments against my requesting in the Issuetracker that <am>
>>> be
>>> allowed to take pretty much the same content as <abbr> and other
>>> phrase-level elements?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Gabriel
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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> --
> Dr Gabriel BODARD
> (Epigrapher & Digital Classicist)
>
> Centre for Computing in the Humanities
> King's College London
> 26-29 Drury Lane
> London WC2B 5RL
> Email: [log in to unmask]
> Tel: +44 (0)20 7848 1388
> Fax: +44 (0)20 7848 2980
>
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>



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