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Re: Origin of lateral fricatives?

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Benct Philip Jonsson <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

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Eric Christopherson skrev:
> On Jul 17, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Alex Fink wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:34:04 +0300, Josh Roth <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm wondering how lateral fricatives (/K/, /K\ / in particular) arise
>>> historically. Anyone know any real-world examples?
>>
>> The Athabaskan language Koyukon has /tK tK_h tK_> K l/ (I think /l/ 
>> proper
>> rather than /K\/) unconditionally for Proto-Athabaskan /ts ts_h ts_> s 
>> z/.
>> Mind, PA already had a lateral obstruent series.
>>
>> It's not the fricative but Nahuatl had t > tK / _ a,u.  (Also /l/ can 
>> become
>> [K] finally or in a voiceless cluster.)
>>
>> I thought I remembered some examples of lt > K but can't track any down.
> 
> I'd assume Welsh -- _cyllell_ "knife" (given by Ray) looks like it's 
> from Latin _cultellus_.

Yes IIRC Welsh had lt > lT > KT > K.

Tolkien posited lt > lT > KT > K for Sindarin, and he
probably knew what he did!  One day he got into his
head that _mallorn_ stood for ['maKOrn], which would
correspond to _maltorne*_ in Quenya (I don't remember if
the Quenya form actually occurs.)

Icelandic has xl > K /l/ merging with preaspiration
as [K] so that /lhp lht lhc lhk/ are [Kp Kt Kc Kk].

AFMOC Sohlob has *sl/*ls > K, while the sister language
has the ancestral unpalatalized liquid > r and then
*sr/*rs > /s`/ and *sl_j/*ls_j > K.

> 
>> Maybe it happens in Burushaski -- Grune's description says /lt/ is [l_0t]
>> but "it is possible that ... -lt- should be considered as a single
>> consonant", which probably means it has a unitary realisation?  And 
>> Somali I
>> just misremembered, it has lt > S, but that could've had [K] as 
>> intermediary.

It is claimed that proto-semitic

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