Hmm, now that I've gotten around to reading the Wikipedia article on
the subject... the 'seagull' mark seems a bit inadequate, meaning
either the tip of the tongue touching the upper lip or the blade
(/flat) of the tongue. But there is a big difference between a
'raspberry' and a trill with the tip of the tongue on the upper lip.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Paul Roser<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:13:21 -0400, Daniel Demski <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>>This may be a kind of irrelevant question, but do any natlangs have
>>... trilled labial (not bilabial) sounds? I am referring to touching
>>one's tongue to one's upper lip and trilling briefly. The Morsin
>>language is supposed to have a variety of phonemes accomplished with
>>the tongue on the upper lip but I haven't decided how to write them so
>>they don't get used. :)
>
> That would be an apicolabial or linguolabial trill, and the IPA would be an
> <r> with the little seagull diacritic underneath (not at my home computer
> so can't easily type it in). Some languages in Vanuatu have linguolabials,
> particularly on the islands of Malekula and Santo, but to date no natlang
> has been reported to have a linguolabial trill. But this is a common
> articulation of the so-called raspberry or Bronx Cheer, familiar to American
> and British children - not sure how universal it is beyond the
> English-speaking world?
>
> In the IPA linguolabials are usually written as alveolars (<theta> & <edh>
> for the fricatives) with the little seagul diacritic beneath. In the
> transcription systems I've seen for the Vanuatu languages, they are
> usually written as labials with an apostrophe: p', b', m', f', v'.
>
>
> -Bfowol
>