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Right, but a lot of USians (the vast majority, I'd wager) don't know that, and use "England," "Britain," and "the UK" interchangeably. Much to the chagrin of the Scots, Welsh, and Northern Irish. ;)
-- Paul
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From: Eugene Oh <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 2:00:10 PM
Subject: Re: Standards - was: A spoken-only conlang
I think the questions "what country are you from" and "what nation are you
from" would make a discernible difference in Rightpondia, where the Scots,
Welsh and Irish each form a separate "nation" under the United Kingdom,
which is a country.
Eugene
2009/8/10 Paul Hartzer <[log in to unmask]>
> > From: "<deinx nxtxr>" <[log in to unmask]>
> > As a USAnian, I recognize some significant overlap between "country" and
> > "nation" but wouldn't say they are completely interchangable. Both have
> meanings
> > that wouldn't apply to the other.
>
> If word A has meanings x, y, and z, and word B has meanings x', w, and v,
> that doesn't preclude A and B from being interchangeable in contexts where
> definition x is the one being applied. For instance, for the casual English
> speaker*, "pig" and "swine" are probably interchangeable when speaking about
> farm animals, but the insult "You're a male chauvinist pig!" wouldn't sound
> right as "You're a male chauvinist swine!"
>
> Is there a context for you where "country" means "political unit" and
> cannot be replaced by "nation," or vice versa? E.g., for me, "what country
> are you from?" and "what nation are you from?" (awkward though it is) is the
> same question.
>
> -- Paul
>
> * Professional swineherders are likely to make a finer distinction,
> obviously.
>
>
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