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In Malaysian and Singaporean Malay (vs. Indonesian), "kakak" has narrowed to
mean only "elder sister", while "elder brother" is "abang", which is also
used to address one's boyfriend, a young man on the street etc.
Interestingly, when I first learnt the language from an Indonesian
acquaintance about ten years ago, the first word I learnt was "kakak", and
she told me that meant "elder sister".
Eugene
2009/8/18 Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Philip Newton<[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > 2009/8/17 Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>:
> >> What I found interesting from a conlang perspective is the idea that
> >> kinship terms might specify the gender of the SPEAKER as well as the
>
> > That reminds me of Niuean, a Polynesian language, which has words such
> > as _taokete_ "elder brother of a man; elder sister of a woman";
> > _tehina_ "younger brother of a man; younger sister of a woman";
> =========================
>
> Austronesian langs. generally have a variety of terms that can refer to
> same or cross-sex siblings, also to older/younger; but as the langs. have
> developed, the system becomes lesst well organized ~more generalized in many
> languages. For inst., Indonesian _kakak_ means 'older sib. of either sex, M
> or F' while _adik_ means only 'younger brother'; some languages have a term
> _nara_ or its cognate that means 'younger sister (man speaking), younger bro
> (woman speaking)', while the cognates of "adik" tend to mean only 'younger
> sib., in genl.').
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