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I hear the same sort of thing with "mayOral"/"electOral" and 'realtohr'
("realtor"). People are emphasizing the 'o' sounds, and it sounds awful.
stevo
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:47 AM, R A Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Philip Newton wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 09:02, R A Brown <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> And the modern /'tOtOjz/ or /'tO`tOjz/ "tortoise" really
>>> spoils Lewis Carroll's pun. When I was a youngster, that
>>> second syllable was always [@s], whether the speaker was
>>> educated or not. No it ain't so.
>>>
>>
>> There are people who say /-Ojz/? *boggle*
>>
>
> There are indeed; they do the same with equally inoffensive 'porpoise'
> :(
>
> I've only ever heard it rhyming with "sort us".
>>
>
> So had I when I was a youngster.
>
> Kids these days....
>>
>
> Don't blame the kids - it's their _parents_ with their damned affected
> pronunciation. It seems to be used by the petite bourgeoisie who have
> aspirations to be more the 'petite' and among working class trying to be
> 'upwardly mobile.' It's clearly an affected 'hypercorrection' by those who
> think rhyming it with "sort us" is 'common'.
>
> (Or, alternatively: expats retain conservative pronunciations and are
>> not aware of linguistic developments in their "homeland"; film at 11.)
>>
>
> ..or don't feel the need for affected pronunciations to prove how educated
> they are ;)
>
>
> --
> Ray
> ==================================
> http://www.carolandray.plus.com
> ==================================
> Nid rhy hen neb i ddysgu.
> There's none too old to learn.
> [WELSH PROVERB]
>
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