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Re: multi-modal language (was: Nika Introduction)

From:

Nika Mirovak <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 3 Apr 2010 20:29:36 -0400

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Sai,

You're right: the link you showed me just tells me "image." Can you just
explain it? Is it like  the trees used in syntax or the "spider webs" used
in brainstorming?

Moon letters in connected-braille-dot patterns are readable but I wouldn't
say that moon letters in the shape of print letters are very tactually
efficient. That's just my opinion though. I'm not the best of braille
readers since I wasn't born totally blind and didn't grow up with braille.
(Generally only congenitally totally blind children grow up with braille
these days, at least in the U.S. Most of the rest of blind children get
forced to use large print, even if it means they can only read 72 pt font
for 15 minutes at a time.)  Then again you would probably want your tactile
system to be accessible to all readers, not just readers who grew up with
braille.

Have you ever heard of raised dot graphics? They are just like visual
graphics, except with raised dots in the the patterns and shapes of the
print graphic, with alternating patterns as "fill in" for various sections.
The sentence diagram braille page also outlined some pretty non-linear
patterns for transcriptions. So braille (or more loosely, raised dots) isn't
any more restricted to a linear format than print in my opinion. I think you
should go ahead and try to devise a non-linear system, but I think it would
be wise to stay with raised dots and not try to use solid raised lines or
entire sections of raised "areas" on the page. From there I would be more
than happy to give you feedback.

If you want to try to figure out a way to create such raised dots, you can
get any sort of slightly thicker paper (like the cardboardish paper used for
posters or magazine pages) and then you can order a slate and
stylus<http://www.brl.org/intro/session02/slate.html>
 from this website<http://www.independentliving.com/products.asp?dept=345&deptname=Full%20Size%20and%20Pocket%20Slates>,
which is probably a good low-tech start. From there you can get as creative
as you want and see what happens. If you want to use actual braille paper,
you can order it
here<http://www.independentliving.com/products.asp?dept=380&deptname=Standard%20Braille%20Paper>.
A more pricey option is flexi
paper<http://www.emptech.info/product_details.php?ID=1143>.
If you decide to go high-tech, there are some computer programs that allow
you to draw something on the computer and print it out as a tactile
graphic.

I think I'd have to be more familiar with Rejistanian itself to comment on a
braille system for it. If you have a webpage about it, I can read all about
it and suggest ideas for a braille code.

What does HTH mean?

Nika

On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Mechthild Czapp <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> > Von: Nika Mirovak <[log in to unmask]>
> > An: [log in to unmask]
> > Betreff: Re: multi-modal language (was: Nika Introduction)
>
> > Sai,
> >
> > Kickass engelanger for the blind? Enter Nika. Just kidding, wink.
> >
> > First I have to say that I think braille is a pretty kickass system. It's
> > much more tactually distinguishable than raised letters, which were used
> > (largely unsuccessfully) before Louis Braille came along. The 6-dot
> > Braille
> > cell is designed to fit under the finger well, and be read without moving
> > the finger beyond the left-right sweeping movement of reading itself.
> > Raised
> > letters required the finger to move in the direction of the letter itself
> > (up/down, diagonally), and braille manages to eliminate this completely.
>
> So... A system like the Moon system (which raises certain characteristic
> parts of the written letter, eg: an inverted v for the rejistanian letter x)
> would be inefficient (it would require to distinguish only horizontal,
> vertical and 2 sorts of diagonal lines)? There goes my idea for a
> rejistanian writing system for the blind. Could you comment on an idea for
> rejistanian written in Braille if I ever get around creating it?
>
> --
> Sanja'xen mi'lanja'kynha ,mi'la'ohix jilih, nka.
>
> My life would be easy if it was not so hard!
>
>
>
> GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT!
> Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01
>

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