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CONLANG  May 2010, Week 4

CONLANG May 2010, Week 4

Subject:

Re: nternally headed relative clauses

From:

Basilius <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 25 May 2010 08:02:09 -0400

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On Sat, 22 May 2010 20:11:06 -0500, Wm Annis wrote:

>Thanks to a fateful encounter with Navajo and other Athabascan
>languages, I decided to go with internally-headed relative clauses in
>my current project, Bixwá.  I wandered over to the CALS, and found
>that out that a whopping 5 conlangs made this choice.  But, one of
>those languages is Kutenai, a natlang cloned for testing purposes.
>Three of them list no web site for me to gaze at and the one that does
>have a web site, Wenedyk, a polonized romlang for Ill Bethisad, has
>"nothing here yet" for the syntax page.  I'm hoping there are a few
>more conlangs that have made that decision.

Affanonic (a conlang of mine) has head-internal RC's (as an option, among
others). See here: 

http://tzirtzi.ipage.com/akana/index.php?title=Affanonic/Grammar#Head-internal_relative_clauses

(The above is a temporary link; when AkanaWiki is back in its place, I
suppose the permanent address will be the following:

http://akana.superlush.co.uk/~akana/index.php/Affanonic/Grammar#Head-internal_relative_clauses
)

Not much detail in the page, but there is some diachronics behind Affanonic
head-internal RC's. It's rather trivial, though; the less trivial part is
the use of detached case markers in the protolanguage, Ran's Proto-Isles,
which can be analyzed as having head-internal RC's too; see here:

http://tzirtzi.ipage.com/akana/index.php?title=Proto-Isles/Grammar#Serial_Verb_Construction


(permanent link, not working now:
http://akana.superlush.co.uk/~akana/index.php/Proto-Isles/Grammar#Serial_Verb_Construction
)

>http://csli-publications.stanford.edu/HPSG/3/chungkim.pdf has a very
>thorough discussion of internally-headed RCs for those who haven't
>chanced upon these yet.  I

Thanks for the link! 

- Basilius

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