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AUXLANG  June 2010, Week 5

AUXLANG June 2010, Week 5

Subject:

Re: Ido, Novial, and my own thoughts on IALs

From:

Zeinelabidin Elhassi <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:09:13 -0400

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On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:18:14 +0900, Jens Wilkinson 
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:46 PM, Todd Moody <[log in to unmask]> 
wrote:
>
>> Many of the intellectuals may have been attracted to Ido, but clearly the
>> rabble were not.  This proves at least one point: You need a critical mass
>> of rabble to keep an auxlang in business.
>>
>
>I understand your point, and realize that to some extent you are using
>the word "rabble" facetiously, but I don't think the distinction
>really has to be between "intellectuals" and the "rabble." It may be
>more simply between people who care about linguistic issues and those
>who don't. Even among intellectuals, I think there are many who
>couldn't care less whether there is an -n after the accusative or what
>not. It's more like the way music critics can go to a concert and
>listen to some dismal piece of unapproachable music and proclaim it
>genius whereas most people (musicians included!) would prefer to
>listen to something less, let's say, intellectual.
>

More about the positive side, It's an attempt to create a language that 
everybody is going to like something in it.

Arabs are so happy that English has many Arabic words. What I really see is 
that Arabs show programs in the TV about the Arabic origins of some English 
words. They write books about this and they are proud. For example I noticed 
that the free people Amazigh are also proud about the presence of some of 
their words in Arabic dialects. Some other people might not be as proud as 
others ,but I think there are other ideas in an equality language to be happy 
with. I thought we should make a world language that makes all the world 
knows words from all the world. Connecting people. A world wide web. A world 
language.

If the words are not going to make person happy, then the regularity and 
easiness ,and even if that didn't make the person happy , he\she might be just 
happy because of the general idea of the language and what it is really 
attempting.



>You wrote somewhere that there is hostility among the public. I don't
>really think there is. Incredulity, perhaps, astonishment at the idea
>that somebody would deliberately try to write their own language, but
>I doubt there is real hostility. The only hostility would come if an
>advocate accuses them of being a Nazi for not supporting the idea or
>something like that. In other words, if a proselytizer tries to impose
>a guilt trip on them as a means to gain support for the "movement."
>But things are often like that. I don't have any hostility to any
>religious idea, except when a person comes up to me and says I'm going
>to go to hell if I don't believe exactly what they want me to believe.
>

Off topic :
There are many people who call for their religion specially among certain 
religions followers. Problems happen when those people still don't fully 
understand other cultures. And as a person who likes to learn about cultures 
,and knows something about how different people are thinking ,I understand 
the offence that could happen to you when somebody comes and says a similar 
thing. In the same time I understand that this word has different definitions. 
For example Baha'i faith defines hell as being away from God. And some athiest 
say that they don't need such a thing to do something good in life. People have 
different beliefs and philosophies ,and even among believers of the same religon 
you can find some differences.  The problem is that it's possible to see a worse 
hostility from some kinds of religous people ,as you can see followers of some 
religons being more hostile against followers of the same religon. In the same 
time I understand that some believers are actually thinking about heaven ,and 
they want you to live in heaven. 

Offensive things differ from culture to culture ,but in general most people are 
becoming more tolerant. I have heared a footabll referee who said that in the 
past referees were dismissing players for things that are not offensive 
nowadays. In the past it was offensive for players to wear the shorts. 
 
A worldlanger (I know his name ,but I don't know him very well) sent me an 
email asking about the existence of Ardano in funny and sarcastic way. I 
wasn't offended. I thought about Nihilism. So, I didn't reply to him at all. :-)

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