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Also, the other falsifiable claim is that the primitives are universal. You
just need to find a language that doesn't at all encode the meaning of that
primitive in any way. Of course, that includes morphologically and
syntactically, not just semantically.
One of the things I like about NSM is that it is extremely falsifiable. It
many ways, it seems a more scientifically rigorous hypothesis than
generative grammar, in that. But at the same time, I think people fail to
recognize that it's a model of semantics, not a claim about the way
semantics really works.
I'd love to learn to do it. It'd be splendid to incorporate some semantics
into my stylistics.
I'm also personally torn because I adore Lakoff. He seems to think he's at
odds with NSM; I'm not sure he is. Please, grandpa and grandma, don't
fight!
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:01 PM, MorphemeAddict <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 12:21:41 -0400, MorphemeAddict <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >The set of NSM primitives is incomplete and empirical, and the
> primitives
> > >themselves are irreducible. That's what makes them primitives. There is
> > also
> > >an ongoing search for additional primitives, and more testing of the
> > >proposed primitives. It's still a new field.
> >
> > Hm. What sort of testing is this? How does one actually know when one
> has
> > hit upon a primitive?
> >
> > Alex
> >
>
>
> By continually trying to explicate it in terms of the remaining primitives.
> If it's possible, then it's not a primitive. If the word resists such
> explication, then it becomes a candidate for being a primitive. After a
> long
> while of continued effort, the candidate is regarded as a primitive. There
> is no test for whether a word is a primitive except by trying to explicate
> it in NSM. The primitives are not absolute, as there is always the
> possibility that an NSM explication can be found, but hasn't yet been
> found.
>
>
> stevo
>
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