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--- On Sat, 4/16/11, Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 08:26:19 -0700, J. Burke <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> >According to one account, I believe, PIE (or pre-PIE)
> had animate/inanimate
> genders, from which the familiar M/F/N system evolved;
> among the non-living
> animate things was natural or wild fire (as opposed to fire
> under the
> control of people, such as campfires, which were
> inanimate). I remember
> being told that by someone, but can't remember who.
> It makes a certain
> amount of sense, and would go a long way toward explaining
> some of the
> frankly baffling genders of various IE words (like French
> _le vagin_, which
> is masculine, and _la verge_, which is feminine).
>
> I don't think any bafflement is merited. The core
> assignments of males to
> the M gender and females to the F gender seem to have
> remained very robust
> in IE, up through modern times; but it is only these core
> assignments,
> without metaphorical extensions, that have.
> Characteristic parts /
> trappings / ... of (fe)males are not themselves (fe)males,
> so they have no
> reason to be put into M or F genders, and will fall where
> they may.
I was unaware of all that; my knowledge of PIE is just a tad
beyond basic.
> >
> >> Both the pronominal system of Hanoa?tsi (H) and
> the means by which
> >> pronominal ideas are expressed are radically
>
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