On 06/06/11 13:45, Martin Holmes wrote:

> I was thinking that one of the best ways of describing an image is to
> take advantage of a standard description/representation that exists in a
> standard.
>
> 🙅 (Face with no good gesture)
>
> will probably be more helpful in the long term than an idiosyncratic
> attempt to describe an obscure emoticon. As far as using the actual
> characters right now is concerned, they're not in Plane 0, and font
> support is likely to be patchy at best.


I totally agree. But you *are* using the character above!

If you tag it

<figure>
<graphic url="wotever.png"/>
<figDesc>
(Face with no good gesture)
</figDesc>
</figure>


that obliges you to have a graphic representing the wretched thing, 
whi(Face with no good gesturech seems a bit unnecessary.

I think I would much rather do

<my:emoticon>
<g ref="#x1f645">&#x1f645;</g>
<desc>(Face with no good gesture)</desc>
</my:emoticon>

this may mean i have to defined a <glyph> for each of the little devils, 
but that seems less dishonest than pretending they are actually 
graphics. And I'm not actually obliged to use the @ref attribute on <g> 
if I am content to use the Unicode character on its own.


> Cheers,
> Martin
>
>>
>>      On 06/06/11 13:23, Martin Holmes wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> For the graphical emoticons, you could use the appropriate Unicode
>>> characters or their numeric entities in a<figDesc>    -- emoticons have
>>> been in Unicode for a while:
>>>
>>> <http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/Unicode-6.0/U60-1F600.pdf>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> On 11-06-05 11:21 PM, Maria Ermakova wrote:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> I have a question concerning emoticon encoding. I am encoding forums and
>>>> chats (using default text and speech modules), and there is plenty of
>>>> different characters, which express emotions. Generally one can divide them
>>>> in two separate blocks: graphic emoticons (smileys) and typed emoticons
>>>> (strings of characters).
>>>> I have tried the following elements for encoding them:<g>,<seg
>>>> type="emoticon">,<figure><graphic/></figure>. Nevertheless, this encoding
>>>> does not seem to be satisfactory.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone done smiley encoding? If yes, how did You annotate them? Did You
>>>> distinguish between different types of emoticons?
>>>>
>>>> Thank You in advance,
>>>> Maria Ermakova