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Charles W Brickner, On 30/10/2011 23:31:
> From: Constructed Languages List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets
> On 30 October 2011 15:48, Charles W Brickner<[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>> Why is there a<u> in 'colour' when it doesn't occur in the Latin?
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>
> Because English didn't borrow the word directly from Latin, but from Old Norman (a dialect or sister language of Old French, depending on who you
> ask) where it was spelt _colour_ ...
> _________________
>
> Then I must ask, "Why did the Normans put a<u> in the word? To
> reflect their pronunciation?
As Christophe said, it looks like Latin _color_ gave /kulur/ in Norman French. /u/ is spelt <ou> in French, tho when the Normans wrote English they sometimes wrote short u as <o>, as in _love, glove, dove_, so if the word entered English as /kulu:r/ the spelling <colour> might be unsurprising, and the modern pronunc /kVl@r/ the regular outcome. If English had taken the word from Latin, it ought to be spelt _color_ and pronounced with LOT in the first syll, i.e. homophonous with _choler, collar_.
Adam Walker, On 30/10/2011 22:20:
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 4:24 PM, And Rosta<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> . For instance, for me but apparently nobody else, the second syllable of
>> _turquoise_ is /kOIs/, so whatever single spelling of the word the
>> orthography offered would be discrepant with my accent.
>>
> If you're referring to the vowel, that pronunciation is common here in
> Texas, though the final consonant is usually /z/ so /kOIz/. Pronunciations
> with /waz/ always strike me as affected.
I had been wondering whether I should list the pronunciations of _turquoise_ so as to forestall a YAEPT. I was referring to the whole of /kOIs/, in contrast to /kOIz/, /kwOIz/, /kw&z/, /KwA:z/, /k@s ~ kIs/.
--And.
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