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On 2011-11-17 16:56, R A Brown wrote:
> On 17/11/2011 15:21, Adam Walker wrote:
>> Why not just specify that two adjacent vowels generatea glottal
>> stop
>> between them? Then you could even have /pi?i/ as a word vs. /piji/.
>
> Whaʔ? Sor? o' like the sound Briʔs make for medial or final /t/? :)
>
> How widespread is the use of /ʔ/ as a phoneme in the world's
> languages?
>
> There's no problem with /piji/ at the moment (except in allegro
> speech I suppose it could become [pi:]); also according to the
> current online page /piji/ could be pronounced [piji], [pi.i] or
> [piʔi] ad_lib.
>
> It's only /a/ which is causing a problem.
>
So why can't /paa/ be [pa.a], [paha] or [pa?a] ad lib?
I guess that what I essentially meant was that it isn't
the whole world if it came out as [paxa] for some -- it
doesn't necessarily mean that Brx acquires a velar fricative
phoneme /x/ which must be subject to the same allophonic rules
vs. /s/ as /k/ vs. /t/ -- phonologically it's still /./, which
just happens to have a wide range of allophones, some of which
have oral friction, which is OK as long as they don't coincide
with allophones of /s/. That's actually how a book I have
describes Japanese /h/. The only difference would be that
Brx /./ has a [?] allophone.
/bpj
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