Dear Mr. Padriac Brown,
Thanks very much for quick response and sharing your thoughts on this
topic. It has been a great help indeed.
Regards,
V.M.Kulkarni


On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Padraic Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Namaste Gents:
>
> However interesting Bharti might be as a conlang, I'm afraid that the
> present discussion is entirely centered on auxlang advocacy. While I
> doubt you'd get many flames for it here (or even in the Other List),
> Conlang isn't the apporpriate venue for this thread. Auxlang is really
> the most appropriate list for that kind of discussion. Vishvanath, if you'd
> like to describe and discuss your father's work here on Conlang, I know
> *that* discussion would be most welcome. I don't think we've seen even
> one Indian conlang hereabouts, leastways that I'm aware of!
>
> As for the question of preserving his work in printing, I think that is a
> commendable idea. Two methods present themselves immediately: creating a
> website to detail the language, and printing the grammar and description
> in a book. With a script that is apparently different from the usual
> Indian writing systems, it might be a lot of work, but I think technically
> possible to turn your father's letterforms into a font. You could then
> simply create a website with the grammar and lexicon.
>
> Another possibility, depending on the manuscript, is simply to type the
> description and grammar on paper, neatly transcribe the devised letters
> into the spaces left on the paper, and then scan the whole thing in to a
> PDF file. Easily transmitted, viewed online and printed by anyone
> interested. The PDF could also be used to submit to a self-publishing firm
> (like lulu.com), from which any interested person could purchase a printed
> copy of the book.
>
> Regards and good luck with your project!
>
> Padraic
>
> --- On Sat, 12/31/11, harvinder negi <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > From: harvinder negi <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: [CONLANG] Help in constructing new language
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Saturday, December 31, 2011, 11:21 PM
> > seems grand ideas. my reservations is
> > how can this be called a new script
> > and a language since language is built by its users, if no
> > one uses it at
> > present then how is it going to develop and when we have
> > already so many
> > languages and scripts to deal with why should we accept
> > this new one.
> > officially, hindi along side english is used in india, with
> > regional
> > languages also in use.
> > your idea sounds new. lets see what the new language
> > has...
> >
> > On 1 January 2012 00:51, Vishvanath Kulkarni
> > <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > Here's wishing all of you a very happy and prosperous
> > new year !I have
> > > recently joined this group. My father was a teacher in
> > India. He
> > > worked to develop a new language and script - called
> > "Bharti". I would
> > > like to brief you about it.
> > >
> > > Background:
> > >
> > > Hindi was to be the sole national language for India.
> > However, there
> > > was a resistance from Non Hindi speaking states
> > (particularly  south
> > > Indian states) for Hindi being made the only national
> > language. Hence
> > > a duel language policy was adopted with both Hindi as
> > well as English
> > > to be used for government work.
> > >
> > > The opposition was based on the feeling of bias in
> > favour of Hindi
> > > Speaking people if we make Hindi as the only language
> > for Govt work.
> > > It would be easy for Hindi speaking people where as
> > Non Hindi speaking
> > > are required to learn additional language and they may
> > not be
> > > competitive for govt. jobs when they compete with
> > Hindi mother tongue
> > > people.
> > >
> > > In view of this,  my father (who was a teacher as
> > well as Gandhian)
> > > thought of developing a new script and language for
> > all office work to
> > > be used by all Indians This will be new to all .
> > Hence, there would
> > > not be any opposition by anybody. Also this was to be
> > developed based
> > > on Indian languages .  Hence the name Bharati.
> > > He was of the opinion that this will be easier to
> > learn than to learn
> > > English. He was also opposed to maintain Engilsh as
> > the language for
> > > all instead of any Indian Language.
> > > This was similar to concept of common European
> > Language “ESPERANTO”
> > >
> > >
> > > Work my father had done (all only hand written) after
> > his retirement:
> > >
> > > 1. Study scripts of all Indian Languages and develop a
> > new script “
> > > BHARATI “. Improvements were done to make the script
> > print /type
> > > friendly
> > >
> > > 2. He developed the grammer based on Indian languages
> > with some
> > > modifications to make things easier to understand and
> > easier to teach
> > >
> > > 3. He conducted training session in the village high
> > school to
> > > experiment as to how easy/difficult is this to
> > understand.
> > > He found that all students could easily pick up the
> > script.
> > > All the thrust was to make the new language/script
> > easy to learn and
> > > still will be Indian. (Even South Indian languages
> > have a lot common
> > > to Sanskrit -- mother of Indian Languages)
> > >
> > > 4. He prepared a dictionary for the words of the new
> > language—(with
> > > English as well as Marathi)
> > >
> > >
> > > Help I need now:
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, the voluminous work has not been
> > printed. My father is
> > > no more. (He expired in 2006)
> > > The hand written work is available with me. I do not
> > know how to get
> > > the same printed ( as the scipt is different) and
> > whether some body
> > > would be interested in understanding the same and
> > developing further.
> > > At the same time I feel the exhaustive work done by my
> > father should
> > > be preserved. Hence   I would like
> > to  get the same printed/saved as
> > > soft copy) as the handwritten work will get spoilt
> > after some period.
> > >
> > > I also would like to know whether anybody would be
> > interested in going
> > > into the details.
> > > I request you to send this message through your
> > associations and also
> > > let me know if anybody would be interested or help
> > me.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks & Regards,
> > >
> > > V.M.Kulkarni
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanking you and regards.
> >
>