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On Feb 1, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Padraic Brown wrote:
>> Latin has plenty of ablaut! For example, the stem changing
>> third
>> conjugation verbs: facio/feci; ago/egi; fundo/fu:di. There
>> are also
>> examples akin to our sing/song ablaut: donum/dare;
>> genus/gignere.
>
> Now that I think on it, these aren't the same, are they. You mention
> goose/geese, which is i-umlaut (*gansiz or similar), not ablaut. I don't
> think Latin has any umlaut forms!
I suppose by ablaut what I meant was apophony, but indeed, Latin does have some of the forms. Let's see what my dictionary does with them...
faciō facere fēcī factus (faxim = fēcerim; faxō = fēcerō)...
All of that before you even get the part of speech! Now for a more or less regular verb:
existim·ō -āre -āvī -ātus...
So what it looks like is if there's a uniquely identifiable stem in the first person present tense form of the verb, it's separated from the conjugation with a raised dot. After that, the principle parts are given as suffixes (since they attach directly to the previously indicated stem). If, however, there isn't a uniquely identifiable stem, there is no raised dot, and the full form for each of the principle parts is listed.
That's not too bad, actually. I think it's kind of a midway point between listing everything and listing what's necessary (after all, they could have given the "faciō" treatment to *every* single verb). And even though there is an identifiable stem in "faciō" (fac-), since it can't be used with *every* one of the principle parts, it's treated, basically, as if it featured some sort of stem-internal irregularity (even though with faciō, it would seem that fēcī is the odd duck).
Well, that's what I get for not looking at the verbs (I had nouns on the brain). Incidentally, with nouns it's the nom. and then gen. singular (same rule for the raised dot applies). I may change my system to fall in line with this; I rather like it.
David Peterson
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