On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 09:51:47 +0100, Nikolay Ivankov 
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>I'm not really sure that this is the question to the LCS, even less than
>the previous question by Nicole.

Well, the conworld in question is the birthplace of Sironu, as well as two sister 'langs 
I'm now working on, so it does have some relevancy.

>First of all, what you describe resembles, with small historical
>"oscillations", USA around the war for independence. Slavery, democracy,
>the steam power is nigh, the science is still somewhat Renaissance.

Well, in some ways you're pretty spot on.

The region its history has been dominated by Siru (the Sironu Empire) for well over 
one and a half millenia. Sometime in the past, however, a meteor strike in the north 
causes drastic climate change and widespread chaos. Scientific research, which 
once progressed at an unprecedented rate, now virtually goes extinct. Siru loses 
most of its territories, allowing new nations and city-states to develop without 
interference.

One of these nations, Provede gains enough power to take control of a loose 
allaince of city-state "tribes", and they eventually must unite in order to break free 
from Provedian rule. (Yes, similar to America's struggle for independence) They 
form the new nation of Doimatera.

Time goes on, and a small island named Tekkos, left to its own devices, discovers 
(or maybe rediscovers) steam power, as well as creates techniques for making 
steel, and eventually becomes a major industrial and trade center. Siru, after 
centuries of barely hanging on, begins to make a comeback and begins the process 
of reclaiming its former territory, becoming an imperialistic entity much like Rome.

Typing this up, I managed to answer some of my questions. *shrug*

>So what will really resemble Antiquity in your conworld? Is it only about
>sandals and togas, or do you mean something else, like lack of gunpowder?

I'm not sure if I understand this question.

>Furthermore, Greeks were aware of steam engine (in its most simple forms)
>and differential device, and that's the fault of Romans who didn't get the
>point. Greeks were also aware of lens since at least Vth century BC, so
>they could have constructed both telescope and microscope. And, by the way,
>the microscope, as an idea of reversing the telescope, appeared much later,
>because it looks much more practical and fascinating from the beginning to
>know what is far rather than what is right here, but invisibly small.

Okay, true, but though I'm borrowing elements from real history, I don't always want 
to follow it.

>As to democracy, Rome before Caesar was a Republic = Rex Publica = Reign of
>People = Demo+Kratia = Demo-Cracy. The development of the democracy was not
>something path-breaking in ancient times, it is actually the monarchy that
>was developing out of egalitarian societies.

>I'm not sure I've answered Your question, but this has nothing to do with
>conlanging so far. So if You want more answers and questions, write a
>personal message.

Mmmmkay...

>
>On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:15 AM, J. Snow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> The conworld I derived my conlang from is a patchwork of elements from our
>> own
>> world. I've mainly been dealing with a set time period in this world, and
>> I've only
>> bothered with a relatively small region, because planning on using it in a
>> story I'm
>> trying to write.
>>
>> -Society in this region is roughly similar to Roman times (in some
>> places), around
>> 500 BC to 100 AD.
>> -The technology is rather advanced for these types of societies; steel is
>> beginning
>> to become mass-produced, and steam powered ships and machinery are 
common
>> several of the nations of this region.
>> -Science is in a post Renaissance-like stage; the telescope is a recent
>> invention and
>> microscopes have been around for a century.
>> -Religion is a bit blurred; there is a duothiestic, Christian-like
>> religion that has been
>> around for 1000 years but Romanesque gods are still widely worshipped.
>>
>> My question is, how might these events have developed into what they are
>> "today"? And how might democracy develop in this type of situation?
>>
>> (Sorry if I'm being kind of confusing. I'm tired and probably not thinking
>> clearly.)
>>