At 18:45 12/10/98 -0000, you wrote:
[some stuff]

>I don't understand, don't beat me ! :-)
>
>If adjective is like a verb, why not suppress adjectives and make them
participial ?
>
>Let me explain :
>
>Adjectives would then be like verbs but more permanent in meaning
(linguists would say they would tend towards unaspective) :
>
>to bite > biting
>to be bitten > bitten
>
>
>The next deeper degree in integration is the noun :
>
>biting > the biter
>bitten > the bitten
>
>I proposed :
>
>to bite > who bites > biting > *the biter
>di-kjak > a-ti di-kjak > mu-kjak-a-o > kjak-a-o
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>to bite > who's bitten > bitten > *the bitten
>di-kjak > pe-ti di-kjak > mu-kjak-pe-o > kjak-pe-o
>

        Well, I don't know why but I don't like that. I'd prefer to make a
parallel between adjectives and relative clauses (they are exactly the same
in fact, the relative clause is only a generalisation of the adjective).

>Theme is not a case in any language (otherwise it would be useless) : it's
a tag added to another case or replacing it to show the attribute of the
whole sentence (it's used to unaspectivate an aspective sentence)
>
>Jap :
>
>hon wa yomeru = the book : (I) read it
>
>if wa were a case, it should read :
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>hon wa yomareru =  the book : it's read
>
>that's why you have often case+wa :
>
>hon ni wa e ga aru = In the book there are images.
>
>you have here ni+wa, but there are also wo+wa and more rarely ga+wa.
>

        Totally okay.

>
>> >        I think it could easily be used for every style of verb (at least
>> >intransitive ones. By the way, shall we use transitive/intransitive
>> >differentiation? I think it can be changed).
>>
>> I think this could be distinguished by case.
>>
>> I-undergoer rise-predicate
>> "I rise"
>>
>> I-agent the-chair-patient raise-predicate
>> "I raise the chair"
>>
>> (here "rise" and "raise" would be the *same* root).
>>
>
>You're mixing ergative, causative and factitive ;-)
>But Idon't mind. It's fair enough to me.
>
>
>
>>
>> --Pablo Flores
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>
>Mathias
>>
>
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