Hawksinger wrote:

> Carlos Thompson wrote:
>
> > greath cultures but forgot the rol of burden animals.  Of course, aft=
er I have
> > an *what if* situation and a conworld, I'll put these new elements in=
 the pot.
>
> One thing to remember is that there are a lot of animals that went
> extinct ca. 12,000 BP.  Just keep a few around, such as horses,
> mastodons, zebras (yes, Equus simplicidens), etc.  Keep the existing
> camelids or add a few of the larger extinct varieties, caribou a la
> reindeer, domesticate any of a number of swine, capybara, etc.
> Some of these have modern relatives that are resistant to domestication=

> but given time, will, and the what-if factor, there are/were plenty of
> candidates for domesticated species.

Not to mention rodents and goats.  Well I think not all horses where hunt=
ed and
some
were tamed.  Also some bisons.  Probably mastodonts remaind wild... until=
 a
short
period prior Europeans arrival.

> > that would have helped where bisons lived.  One of todays most fertil=
 regions in
> > the world is the middle USA, I think if the propper conditions of a b=
ig river,
> > domesticated bisons (buffalo), fertil land and enough people, an cult=
ure could
> > have developed.
>
> Several did, the Adena, the Natchez for example.  One of my first
> projects was for a group that never got a name of their own, I just
> called them the Mississippi River Empire (MRE).  That name survives
> today as the Mr=E9, last great enemy of the Nowans and largest city
> in Nowapan.

Actually I was thinking on Mississippi as one of the two ancient cultures=
=2E

> > rudimentary wheels.
>
> I agree with this one, but there have been a few cases
> where wheel use has diminished with the introduction of camels, sorry,
> don't remember the name of a very interesting book.

Well, I wasn't thinking of well as a decicing factor but after know I'm t=
hinking
on
domesticated surviving horses...  I'll give it a second thought.

> Have the conquistadors go the other way.  Maybe some nice Aztecs runnin=
g
> amuck in Europe.  I read an alternative history novel a few years ago
> that had Cortez switching allegiance, helping the Aztecs, who eventuall=
y
> became the most powerful nation on earth.  Only published in England
> I believe, and of course, I don't remember its title either.

Well.  actually in the history, the Hangkerim people send ships to fight =
in
Europe and
even bombed some ports.  But they didn't wanted to invade so the ships ca=
me back
(I
mean during the Europeans invasion, Hangkerim has take themselves away fo=
rm the
internal conflicts in Europe a la WWI).

> PS, How should one pronounce 'Chlewey' and where does the name come
> from??

Chlewey is /xlju:i/ or /kljuwi/ and comes from Carlos Eugenio playing wit=
h
languages
and letters.

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