On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:54:32 -0500 Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]> writes:
>Trace Erin Kern wrote:
>> As for what I mean by 'creating'...One author gave me the advice to
>use
>> the species culture as a language base. A militaristic species will
>> likely have alot of harsh gutteral <sp?> phonetics, where a more
>relaxed
>> or perhaps reptillian species will have alot of soft and sibilant
>sounds.
>
>Well, those are more like prejudices than good advice.  A pacifistic
>society could have a language with tons of gutturals, and a warlike
>people could have lots of /l/'s and /s/'s.  Actually, that might
>create
>some interesting phrases, say, the gentle-sounding [lasaja masina]
>means
>"prepare to die, Earth-scum", while the harsh-sounding [qaQt'a?aGH
>Gqa?]
>means "we wish to help your world".

Good point. Biology more than culture shapes what sounds a language
possesses.

>> Sort of. I've had the 'alien' words floating around in my head for
>a
>> while, then decided to give temporary meaning to them. This
>translation
>> isn't part of a full language unfortunately.
>
>Cool.  It could be the beginning of a conlang.  I assume you have a
>pronunciation for that?  If so, start with those sounds, and expand
>on it, to give you your phonology, and then break down the words
>in some way into morphemes, and assign meanings, so for

I understood half of what you just said. <sheepish grin>
Anyways, as for pronounciation:
Caps = long vowel IE blAde

Hah'Rooqh - two syllables, Hah <ah> Rooqh <rUk> with partial trilling of
the R.
Tah'Khrine - two syllables, short sounding <ta> followed by <krEEn>
again, with a trilled R.
Eayl - two syllables, <E> <ale>
Noh'Tahl - <no> with a partially silent H, <tall> again with H partially
silent.

Not sure of the correct terminology for all that, but there it is in
layman's terms.
I see one thing though...

An H followed by R would seem to trill the R.
A vowel followed by an H tends to make the H only partially silent. As in
the word Ahhh. <Ahhh, I see>
Not sure why I added the apostrophes where they are, but could mean
something.

>Hah'Rooqh Tah'Khrine, Eayl Noh'Tahl
>May you go in peace, all your journey
>
>you could have:
>
>Hah'-Rooqh Tah'-Khri-ne, Eay-l Noh'-Tahl
>In-Peace May-go-you, you-possessive all-journey
>
>Thus, by this break-down, it appears that this language inflects
>verbs
>for person, and either has some sort of case system, or simply
>attaches
>prepositions to words (decide, for instance, how adjectives would be
>dealt with, in-red house or red in-house or in-red in-house, to
>figure
>if it's a case or a preposition).  It also has a prefix for
>blessings.
>Most likely, it would have prefixes for things like imperatives
>(perhaps
>VanKhrine = go!).  Is the apostrophe a sound, like glottal stop, or
>does
>it separate prefixes from their stem, as Steg Belsky has done with
>Rokbeigalki (sp?)?  Or perhaps h' is a single unit.
>
>These are just a few ideas, you could do whatever you want with it,
>of
>course.  Actually, I rather like Noh'Tahl for journey.  Maybe I'll
>adapt
>it as _pinuta'l_ (pi- = gender 7) for Watya'i'sa.

Again, I understood maybe half of what you said. But if you wish to
derive something from this phrase for your own conlang, I have no
objections. <grin> As long as you help me out with my own stuff?

Trace Erin Kern  -  [log in to unmask]
~Hah'Rooqh Tah'Khrine, Eayl Noh'Tahl~
~May you go in peace, all your journey~

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