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Nik Taylor wrote:
> "Thomas R. Wier" wrote:
> > (But if you're going to talk about naturalness: saying "I and Charlie"
> > is practically ungrammatical, while "Chalie and me went..." is actually
> > slightly less natural sounding to me than "Me and Charlie")
>
> I think that the problem with "Charlie and me went", is that there's a
> reluctance to place "me" immediately before a verb, while "I and
> Charlie" is not only an unnatural form (since "me" is typically used
> when seperated from the verb), but not even prescriptively correct,
> since prescriptivists say that the 1st person should come last. Hmm,
> sounds Biblical, "the first shall be last" :-)
Which is funny, since Latin syntax IIRC required (suggested? does
it make sense to talk about such things for Latin syntax? ;) ) that the
pronouns
be ordered in the literal order of pronominal deixis: first person comes
first, second person comes second, third person third:
"Ego, tu et Brutus Caesarem interfecimus."
> Of course, naturalness is largely an idiolectal feature, methinks, so
> it's no surprise that you and I have differing ideas of what's "natural"
Right. We do speak differing dialects too, afterall.
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"Cogito ergo sum, sed credo ergo ero."
Denn wo Begriffe fehlen,
Da stellt ein Wort zur rechten Zeit sich ein.
-- Mephistopheles, in Goethe's _Faust_
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