On another note, of English were Etabnanni, it'd be eRRORRnanni, pronounced /ro1rn&2n/, 1=neutral tone 2=low tone. Dor itself would be RROR, /To1r/. If English were Finnstek, it'd be either Deirestek /deir@stek/ or Doorazsa /do:r@[log in to unmask] Dor itself would either be Deire /deire/ or Doora /do:r@/ If English were Widse, it'd be Dsords [j2y]. Dor itself---I'm assuming Dor is a country---would be Dsorti [j2:]. Assuming they got borrowed into Ygyde. If they didn't, they'd be more like Dords [toy] and Dorti [tor]. You want any, take 'em but they come with absolutely no warranty, express or implied, and all that other disclaimer stuff. Tristan.