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I think it would be great fun have an old time band like the ones described below. To save you some time, the instrumentation in the two passages below is described about two-thirds of the way down each paragraph. I wouldn't argue that these lineups were standard before 1843, but they were certainly not unusual.
Another couple of cases from New York (the state and the city) Philander Seward was a flute player who left behind a hand written collection of music that included a fair number of fiddle tunes. And then there was Micah Hawkins, another flautist who was an uncle or something of W.S. Mount, the fiddler and painter who knew something of banjos as well.
I would not dismiss these accounts as representing only the North. Fiddle with banjo were far from ubiquitous or standard in the South before 1843. In fact, that pairing was extremely rare, according to the historical evidence I have seen. (We've plowed this ground here before, but it's worth turning the dirt over again.)
Enjoy these. I'd love it if other precincts would report.
Paul "ah, the good old days" Tyler
Detzer, Mrs. Laura G. "Pioneer Days and Ways." 1905. (regarding July 4th at the fort at Fort Wayne, Indiana)
In 1869 Mrs. Laura Suttenfield wrote a short sketch giving a glimpse of the lonely life of the little garrison in 1814, when Major Whistler was in command. She says: "The fort at that time contained sixty men of the regular army, all patriotic and anxious to celebrate one day in the year. They made three green bowers, one hundred feet from the pickets of the fort, where Main street now is, one bower for the dinner table, one for the cooks and one for the music. Major Whistler had two German cooks and they prepared the dinner. There were but eleven persons at the table, but three are now living to tell of that day. Our dinner consisted of one fine turkey, a side of venison, roast beef, boiled ham, vegetables in abundance, cranberries and green currants. As for dessert we had none. Eggs were not known here for three years from that time. There were three bottles of wine sent here from Cincinnati, but one was made use of. Then there were a few toasts and
after three guns and music they went into the fort and the ladies changed their dresses. Then Major Whistler called for the music, which consisted of one bass drum, two small ones, one fife, violin and flute. There was a long gallery in the fort, the musicians took their seats there. But three of the gentlemen would dance. There were but three ladies present. A French four passed off very well for an hour. Then the gates of the fort were closed at sundown, which gave it a gloomy appearance. No children no younger persons for amusement, all retired to their rooms. All was still and quiet. The sentinel on his lonely round would give us the hour of the night. In the morning we were aroused by the beating of the reveille.
Hoffman, Charles Fenno. A Winter in the West: Letters Descriptive of Chicago and Vicinity in 1833-4.
We had not been here an hour before an invitation to a public ball was courteously sent to us by the managers, and though my soiled and travel-worn riding-dress was not exactly the thing to present one's self in before ladies of an evening, yet in my earnestness to see life on the frontier, I easily allowed all objections to be overruled by my companions, and we accordingly drove to the house in which the ball was to be give. It was a frame-building, one of the few as yet to be found in Chicago; which although one of them most ancient French trading-posts on the Lakes, can only date its growth as a village since the Indian war, eighteen months since. When I add that the population had quintupled last summer, and that but few mechanics have come in with the prodigious increase of residents, you can readily imagine that the influx of strangers far exceeds the means of accommodation: while scarcely a house in the place, however comfortable-looking outside,
contains more than two or three finished rooms. In the present instance, we were ushered into a tolerably-sized dancing room, occupying the second story of the house, and having its unfinished walls so ingeniously covered with pine branches and flags borrowed from the garrison, that with the whitewashed ceiling above, it presented a very complete and quite pretty appearance. It was not so warm, however, that the fires of cheerful hickory, which roared at either end, could have been readily dispensed with. An orchestra of unplaned boards was raised against the wall in the centre of the room; the band consisted of a dandy negro {sic} with his violin, a fine military-looking bass drummer from the Fort, and a volunteer citizen, who alternately played an accompaniment upon the flute and triangle. Blackee, who flourished about with a great many airs and graces, was decidedly the king of the company; and it was amusing, while his head followed the direction of his
fiddle-bow with pertinacious fidelity, to see the Captain Manual-like precision with which the soldier dressed to the front on one side, and the nonchalant air of importance which the cit attempted to preserve on the other.
Pamela and Stephen Carr <[log in to unmask]> wrote: I think wooden flute sounds great
with fiddle / banjo / mandolin (and although fife might be more authentic, I
prefer the lower flute sound) and I feel excluded when local string groups
or old time bands form, cause they never include flute - out of habit, or
tradition, who knows.
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