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"nonfiling characters" in <title>s (1 message)
<div> versus <divN> again (12 messages)
<publicationStmt>: time to shore up loose ends? (1 message)
A beginner's query (4 messages)
About abbreviations and corrections, again (14 messages)
Announcing the outcome of the TEI Elections in November 2003 (1 message)
Beginner's questions on <xref> and declarations (4 messages)
containing or linking was Re: [TEI-L] About abbreviations and corrections, again (fwd) (1 message)
Content Modelling Methods and Processing Patterns was Re: [TEI-L] URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's (fwd) (2 messages)
Digital Resources in the Humanities 2004 - Call for Proposals (1 message)
div* problem (5 messages)
EAD/Etext/XML Courses at Rare Book School (1 message)
extending TEI (1 message)
Extreme Markup Languages 2004 Call for Participation (1 message)
feature structures Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again (fwd) (1 message)
File size limitations with TEI-Emacs, Windows version? (4 messages)
ID attribute for entries? (16 messages)
Illuminated initials (6 messages)
languages in TEI Lite (1 message)
Lou's travelling TEI show. (3 messages)
Pizza Chef (1 message)
precedence of Guidelines vs. DTD (1 message)
R: About abbreviations and corrections, again (1 message)
RE level attribute was [TEI-L] <div> versus <divN> again (1 message)
Roma oddities (was ID attribute for entries?) (3 messages)
Roma redivivus (9 messages)
some validating problems (1 message)
TAPoRware (1 message)
TEI Manuscipt SIG (1 message)
TEI on O'Reilly (1 message)
Transcribing audio recordings (2 messages)
URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's (2 messages)
URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's questions on < xref> and declarations (4 messages)
URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's questions on <xref> and declarations (9 messages)
which takes precedence, the prose or the schema? (2 messages)
WYSIWYG editor with columns? (2 messages)
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Re: "nonfiling characters" in s</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:03:40 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">44 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="2"></a><a href="#2"><div> versus <divN> again</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('I\'m attaching a copy of a longish question I sent to a consultant with<br>the company that distributes our XML database software (XQuery-based).<br>It involves the &quot;numbered or unnumbered?&quot; dilemma that has been<br>discussed on this list in the past. Feedback from those of you who have<br>wrestled with the choice in the context of heterogeneous projects would<br>be helpful, too. [...]','&lt;div&gt; versus &lt;divN&gt; again','Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:04:36 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=46501"><div> versus <divN> again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">David Sewell</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:04:36 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">105 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('On 13 Feb 2004, at 9:04, David Sewell wrote:<br><br>&gt; Numbered divs: makes it easier to deal with specific levels in<br>&gt; the text hierarchy, like all second-level elements<br><br>This would only seem useful if you make a certain level mean<br>something. Which would also mean that you would have to document that<br>meaning somewhere (in a style guide) and enforce its use. [...]','Re: &lt;div&gt; versus &lt;divN&gt; again','Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:00:51 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=47070">Re: <div> versus <divN> again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Branko Collin</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:00:51 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">28 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi,<br><br>Numbered divs are an easy way for the *encoder* to provide the<br>desired object nesting for indexing/searching, contextualization,<br>and object display independent of the content of a type attribute.<br>This is particularly useful if you are implementing a collection,<br>or any group of collections, that can be made up of any number of<br>different kinds of divs that require distinct nesting orders.<br>Unnumbered divs leave it to the implementor to either guess, on<br>a case by case basis, the best nesting order, or simply to assume<br>that all divs are equal. IMHO, having the encoder explicitly<br>identify the nesting [...]','Re: &lt;div&gt; versus &lt;divN&gt; again','Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:20:28 -0600')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=47624">Re: <div> versus <divN> again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mark Olsen</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:20:28 -0600</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">47 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi Mark,<br><br>Could you explain what you mean by &quot;nesting order&quot; in the below?<br><br>Your argument seems to suggest that the encoder has a choice of what level<br>of numbered div to place inside another, whereas the DTD mandates that<br>inside a div1 can only be a div2, inside a div2 can only be a div3 etc.<br>Given this constraint, an XPath //div1 (in a document where there is no<br>div0) is nothing more than //div[count(ancestor-or-self::div)=1] in a<br>&quot;plain div&quot; model. In other words, given the constraints of the DTD, there<br>is no semantic content whatsoever in the X in [...]','Re: &lt;div&gt; versus &lt;divN&gt; again','Fri, 13 Feb 2004 15:41:26 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=48443">Re: <div> versus <divN> again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wendell Piez</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 13 Feb 2004 15:41:26 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">65 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:04:36 -0500, David Sewell wrote:<br><br>&gt; So that means that to return &quot;letter&quot; nodes across those publications<br>&gt; we\'d need to use XPath like<br>&gt;<br>&gt; (//div1|//div2|//div3|//div4)[@type=&quot;letter&quot;]<br>&gt;<br>&gt; which is ugly as sin. (And what if a new publication goes to div5?)<br>&gt; Or we could be lazy and wildcard:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; //*[@type=&quot;letter&quot;]<br>&gt;<br>&gt; which could be very bad if anything other than a &lt;divN&gt; element<br>&gt; had a @type of &quot;letter&quot;. [...]','Re: &lt;div&gt; versus &lt;divN&gt; again','Fri, 13 Feb 2004 13:07:27 -0800')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=49236">Re: <div> versus <divN> again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Gregory Murphy</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 13 Feb 2004 13:07:27 -0800</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">33 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:04:36 -0500, David Sewell wrote:<br><br>&gt; So the tradeoff is going to be:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Numbered divs: makes it easier to deal with specific levels in<br>&gt; the text hierarchy, like all second-level elements<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Unnumbered divs: makes it easier to deal with similar elements that<br>&gt; may exist at different levels in different documents. [...]','Re: &lt;div&gt; versus &lt;divN&gt; again','Fri, 13 Feb 2004 13:14:38 -0800')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=49995">Re: <div> versus <divN> again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Gregory Murphy</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 13 Feb 2004 13:14:38 -0800</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">36 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi Wendell,<br><br>Ahh, I fear that I came from way out in left field. My bad.<br>You (and Julia) are absolutely right in saying that the binding<br>order is perfectly clear when going top down with a parser. For<br>a variety of reasons to get what I need, I\'ve been thinking about<br>this as streams rather than trees, so getting a set div hierarchy<br>is really useful. But this is too ideosyncratic a view to warrant<br>general consideration. Sorry. I\'ll go back to my fields and<br>streams. :-) [...]','Re: &lt;div&gt; versus &lt;divN&gt; again','Fri, 13 Feb 2004 15:19:43 -0600')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=50581">Re: <div> versus <divN> again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mark Olsen</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 13 Feb 2004 15:19:43 -0600</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">81 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('On Fri, 13 Feb 2004, Gregory Murphy wrote:<br><br>&gt; Another<br>&gt; possibiliy for matching any possible numbered div when it is a<br>&gt; letter, while avoiding letters that are encoded as something else:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; //*[starts-with(name(),\'div\')][@type=\'letter\']<br><br>You and Wendell have both suggested using XPath functions in ways I<br>hadn\'t thought of that in fact should make it easier to deal with<br>dissimilar &lt;div&gt;/&lt;divN&gt; structures. Which is already a big help, because<br>we\'ll be dealing with some material for which we\'ve specified tagging<br>conventions, and other material with pre-existing tagging. The<br>suggestion is that with creative XSLT/XQuery coding, we can let [...]','Re: &lt;div&gt; versus &lt;divN&gt; again','Fri, 13 Feb 2004 16:37:25 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=51259">Re: <div> versus <divN> again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">David Sewell</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 13 Feb 2004 16:37:25 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">37 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('At 04:19 PM 2/13/2004, you wrote:<br>&gt;Ahh, I fear that I came from way out in left field. My bad.<br>&gt;You (and Julia) are absolutely right in saying that the binding<br>&gt;order is perfectly clear when going top down with a parser. For<br>&gt;a variety of reasons to get what I need, I\'ve been thinking about<br>&gt;this as streams rather than trees, so getting a set div hierarchy<br>&gt;is really useful. [...]','Re: &lt;div&gt; versus &lt;divN&gt; again','Fri, 13 Feb 2004 16:48:53 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=52149">Re: <div> versus <divN> again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wendell Piez</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 13 Feb 2004 16:48:53 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">42 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>&gt; From: Wendell Piez [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<br><br>&lt;snip content=&quot;div=divn&quot;/&gt;<br><br>&gt; In other words, it\'s nothing but syntax sugar. To back this<br>&gt; claim up, I\'d<br>&gt; be willing to take a shot at transforming any valid TEI numbered-div<br>&gt; structure you want to throw at me into an otherwise-identical<br>&gt; TEI with an<br>&gt; unnumbered-div structure *and back again*, using plain old<br>&gt; XSLT 1.0 and<br>&gt; *not* a &quot;level&quot; flag (following David\'s not unreasonable<br>&gt; suggestion). [...]','Re: &lt;div&gt; versus &lt;divN&gt; again','Mon, 16 Feb 2004 12:51:34 +1300')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=53957">Re: <div> versus <divN> again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Conal Tuohy</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 16 Feb 2004 12:51:34 +1300</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">32 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Sorry my last message was cut off! It\'s freezing here today (in mid-summer!) and my numb fingers slipped on the keyboard and somehow sent it off :-(<br><br>I agree with Wendell, and I suggest there\'s something to be said for using both conventions.<br><br>What I was saying is that you can use the numbered convention for the convenience of encoders, and still translate it to use the un-numbered div convention for the convenience of later processing (converting to HTML etc). The transformation is trivial. [...]','Re: &lt;div&gt; versus &lt;divN&gt; again','Mon, 16 Feb 2004 12:57:41 +1300')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=54727">Re: <div> versus <divN> again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Conal Tuohy</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 16 Feb 2004 12:57:41 +1300</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">110 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 12:57:41PM +1300, Conal Tuohy wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &lt;xsl:template match=&quot;div0|div1|div2|div3|div4|div5&quot;&gt;<br>&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;xsl:apply-templates/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<br>&gt; &lt;/xsl:template&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; The other way:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &lt;xsl:template match=&quot;div&quot;&gt;<br>&gt; &lt;xsl:element name=&quot;div{count(ancestor::div)}&quot;&gt;<br>&gt; &lt;xsl:apply-templates/&gt;<br>&gt; &lt;/xsl:element&gt;<br>&gt; &lt;/xsl:template&gt;<br><br>careful. these templates do not copy any attributes<br>the original elements may have. probably not what a user<br>would expect. add a<br>&lt;xsl:copy-of select=&quot;@*&quot;/&gt;<br>in there.<br><br>Sebastian.','Re: &lt;div&gt; versus &lt;divN&gt; again','Mon, 16 Feb 2004 00:04:58 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=55420">Re: <div> versus <divN> again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 16 Feb 2004 00:04:58 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">32 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="3"></a><a href="#3"><publicationStmt>: time to shore up loose ends?</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('&lt;publicationStmt&gt;:<br>where it is,<br>how it got here, and<br>where it should go<br><br>&lt;publicationStmt&gt;, present: the current state<br>------------------ -------- --- ------- -----<br>Kevin is correct, 5.2.4 of P4:2003 says the optional elements should<br>appear &quot;in the following order&quot;, and that the DTD does not enforce<br>this. Although I think it is in fact possible to come up with a<br>content model that would enforce what the prose describes, for a<br>variety of reasons (which I expect to go into in more detail below) a<br>looser content model was used. [...]','&lt;publicationStmt&gt;: time to shore up loose ends?','Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:06:57 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=82879"><publicationStmt>: time to shore up loose ends?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:06:57 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">662 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="4"></a><a href="#4">A beginner's query</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('To the listserv;<br><br>As a beginning library student, I am attempting to conceptualize aspects<br>of TEI (amongst other concepts XML, etc.). As such I hoped for article<br>recommendations that may help me. Ideally I hope to follow up with<br>practical application of the knowledge.<br><br>Thank you,<br><br>Camille Meyer','A beginner\'s query','Sat, 7 Feb 2004 14:15:27 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=35129">A beginner's query</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Camille Meyer</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sat, 7 Feb 2004 14:15:27 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">21 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Camille Meyer wrote:<br><br>&gt;As a beginning library student, I am attempting to conceptualize aspects<br>&gt;of TEI (amongst other concepts XML, etc.). As such I hoped for article<br>&gt;recommendations that may help me.<br>&gt;<br><br>the main TEI Guidelines (on the TEI web site at www.tei-c.org) has a<br>number of introductory chapters<br>about the concept of markup, XML, why the TEI etc. Do they help? [...]','Re: A beginner\'s query','Sat, 7 Feb 2004 21:02:14 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=35608">Re: A beginner's query</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sat, 7 Feb 2004 21:02:14 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">24 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('&gt; Camille Meyer wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;As a beginning library student, I am attempting to conceptualize aspects<br>&gt; &gt;of TEI (amongst other concepts XML, etc.). As such I hoped for article<br>&gt; &gt;recommendations that may help me.<br><br>There is also a brief discussion of the TEI in Susan Hockey\'s \'Electronic<br>Texts in the Humanities\', published by Oxford [...]','Re: A beginner\'s query','Sun, 8 Feb 2004 08:32:58 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=36247">Re: A beginner's query</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Susan Schreibman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sun, 8 Feb 2004 08:32:58 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">20 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Camille,<br><br>It was several years ago that I first read it, but I remember thinking that<br>&quot;Creating and Documenting Electronic Texts: A Guide to Good Practice,&quot; by<br>Alan Morrison, Michael Popham, and Karen Wikander--especially chapters 4<br>and 5--was probably a better place to start than the introductory chapters<br>of the official TEI guidelines, which made much more sense afterward. It\'s<br>available both online (at http://ota.ahds.ac.uk/documents/creating/) and in<br>print (ISBN: 1842170120). [...]','A beginner\'s query','Mon, 9 Feb 2004 09:43:06 -0600')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=37940">A beginner's query</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Brett Barney</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 9 Feb 2004 09:43:06 -0600</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">32 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="5"></a><a href="#5">About abbreviations and corrections, again</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi all,<br>a little question about &lt;abbr&gt;/&lt;expan&gt; usage, hope you haven\'t had<br>enough about it already (and that it doesn\'t look too naive to all the<br>TEI experts out there). I\'m transcribing a medieval manuscript, and<br>started by using &lt;abbr&gt; with the expan attribute, like this:<br><br>&lt;abbr expan=&quot;mannum&quot; type=&quot;&quot;&gt;mannĹ«&lt;/abbr&gt;<br><br>I then realized that this way it was going to be very difficult to<br>follow editorial practice (highlighting expanded letters using italics)<br>and that it will require a considerable effort to update my<br>transcription to the forthcoming TEI P5 standard. I considered using<br>entities as suggested in the TEI guidelines (6.4.5), [...]','About abbreviations and corrections, again','Mon, 2 Feb 2004 14:11:45 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=63">About abbreviations and corrections, again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Roberto Rosselli Del Turco</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 2 Feb 2004 14:11:45 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">52 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi Roberto,<br><br>I\'m hoping this is the recommended way, personally. It is certainly how<br>I do it. All these pairs that seem to rely on position cause problems,<br>of course. You can always use the corresp and ID attributes to make the<br>relationship between expansion and contraction explicit if there is an<br>opportunity for confusion (as there might be for example if you had a<br>string of distinct contractions and abbreviations in a long word). [...]','Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again','Mon, 2 Feb 2004 08:42:34 -0700')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=1652">Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Daniel O'Donnell</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 2 Feb 2004 08:42:34 -0700</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">81 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('On Mon, 2 Feb 2004, Daniel O\'Donnell wrote:<br><br>&gt; Hi Roberto,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I\'m hoping this is the recommended way, personally. It is certainly how<br>&gt; I do it. All these pairs that seem to rely on position cause problems,<br>&gt; of course. You can always use the corresp and ID attributes to make the<br>&gt; relationship between expansion and contraction explicit if there is an<br>&gt; opportunity for confusion (as there might be for example if you had a<br>&gt; string of distinct contractions and abbreviations in a long word). [...]','Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again','Mon, 2 Feb 2004 16:14:14 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=2316">Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">James Cummings</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 2 Feb 2004 16:14:14 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">57 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('I\'ve been a long advocate of wrapping things! Sometime ago, for<br>example, I proposed something along the lines of<br>&lt;corr&gt;&lt;del&gt;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;add&gt;&lt;/add&gt;&lt;/corr&gt;, which met with some approval. The<br>only problem with it, however, is that wrapping depends on elements<br>being contiguous. An example is the &lt;cit&gt; tag, which can be used to wrap<br>a quotation and its source, but not if any CDATA separates the two. So [...]','Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again','Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:06:21 -0700')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=3079">Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Daniel O'Donnell</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:06:21 -0700</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">102 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Il lun, 2004-02-02 alle 17:14, James Cummings ha scritto:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Hi Daniel/Roberto,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Wouldn\'t it be better to wrap the &lt;abbr&gt; and &lt;expan&gt; in a &lt;seg&gt; or<br>&gt; &lt;ab&gt; or something?<br><br>[...]<br><br>Yes, that would be the perfect solution. I proposed something similar<br>some time ago (&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;unexpan&gt;&amp;et;&lt;unexpan&gt;&lt;expan&gt;and&lt;/expan&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;).<br><br>&gt; I wouldn\'t really<br>&gt; be worried about it as long as the encoder is consistent, of course. [...]','Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again','Mon, 2 Feb 2004 19:38:15 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=3741">Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Roberto Rosselli Del Turco</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 2 Feb 2004 19:38:15 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">46 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('On Mon, 2 Feb 2004, James Cummings wrote:<br><br>&gt; Wouldn\'t it be better to wrap the &lt;abbr&gt; and &lt;expan&gt; in a &lt;seg&gt; or<br>&gt; &lt;ab&gt; or something? So instead of:<br>(snip)<br>&gt; something like:<br>&gt; &lt;w&gt;Mann&lt;ab type=&quot;abbrev&quot;&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;Ĺ&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;expan&gt;um&lt;/expan&gt;&lt;/ab&gt;&lt;/w&gt;<br><br>This might work (although of course &lt;ab&gt; is block-level so couldn\'t fit<br>here, but &lt;seg&gt; might). My preferred solution is slightly<br>simpler-- something like: [...]','Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again','Mon, 2 Feb 2004 18:45:15 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=4484">Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">BODARD Gabriel</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 2 Feb 2004 18:45:15 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">58 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('There was a recent discussion which raised the possibility of using a<br>structure like this:<br><br>&lt;choice&gt;<br>&lt;option type=&quot;abbr&quot;&gt;mann&amp;umacron;&lt;/option&gt;<br>&lt;option type=&quot;expan&quot;&gt;mannum&lt;/option&gt;<br>&lt;/choice&gt;<br><br>Would it be possible to add this to the P5 schemas as an experimental<br>facility?<br><br>Best<br><br>Tim Finney<br><br>Roberto Rosselli Del Turco wrote:<br><br>&gt;Hi all,<br>&gt;a little question about &lt;abbr&gt;/&lt;expan&gt; usage, hope you haven\'t had<br>&gt;enough about it already (and that it doesn\'t look too naive to all the<br>&gt;TEI experts out there). I\'m transcribing a medieval manuscript, and<br>&gt;started by using &lt;abbr&gt; with the expan attribute, like this:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&lt;abbr expan=&quot;mannum&quot; type=&quot;&quot;&gt;mannĹ«&lt;/abbr&gt;<br>&gt;<br>>I then realized that this [...]','Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again','Tue, 3 Feb 2004 21:15:35 +0800')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=5223">Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tim Finney</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 3 Feb 2004 21:15:35 +0800</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">74 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Tim Finney wrote:<br>&gt; There was a recent discussion which raised the possibility of using a<br>&gt; structure like this:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &lt;choice&gt;<br>&gt; &lt;option type=&quot;abbr&quot;&gt;mann&amp;umacron;&lt;/option&gt;<br>&gt; &lt;option type=&quot;expan&quot;&gt;mannum&lt;/option&gt;<br>&gt; &lt;/choice&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Would it be possible to add this to the P5 schemas as an experimental<br>&gt; facility?<br><br>Better, someone could write an example schema which pulled<br>in P5 and made this change. Its not entirely clear to me<br>what is affected. do we drop abbr and expan, and make choice<br>a possible choice where they were allowed before? [...]','Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again','Tue, 3 Feb 2004 13:12:02 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=6300">Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 3 Feb 2004 13:12:02 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">37 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('While we are at the subject: can this choice structure<br>also be used for page breaks which fall inside a word?<br>For instance<br><br>&lt;choice&gt;<br>&lt;option type=&quot;xxxx&quot;&gt;reconstituted&lt;/option&gt;<br>&lt;option type=&quot;yyyy&quot;&gt;reconsti- &lt;pb n=&quot;77&quot;&gt; tuted&lt;/option&gt;<br>&lt;/choice&gt;<br><br>What would be good keywords for &quot;xxxx&quot; and &quot;yyyy&quot; here?<br>(Hello to all; this is my first posting to this list.)<br><br>Hans.','About abbreviations and corrections, again','Tue, 3 Feb 2004 06:29:00 -0700')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=7222">About abbreviations and corrections, again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Hans G. Ehrbar</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 3 Feb 2004 06:29:00 -0700</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">30 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Hans G. Ehrbar wrote:<br><br>&gt; While we are at the subject: can this choice structure<br>&gt; also be used for page breaks which fall inside a word?<br>&gt; For instance<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &lt;choice&gt;<br>&gt; &lt;option type=&quot;xxxx&quot;&gt;reconstituted&lt;/option&gt;<br>&gt; &lt;option type=&quot;yyyy&quot;&gt;reconsti- &lt;pb n=&quot;77&quot;&gt; tuted&lt;/option&gt;<br>&gt; &lt;/choice&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; What would be good keywords for &quot;xxxx&quot; and &quot;yyyy&quot; here? [...]','Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again','Tue, 3 Feb 2004 14:01:36 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=7910">Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">James Cummings</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 3 Feb 2004 14:01:36 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">34 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Il mar, 2004-02-03 alle 14:12, Sebastian Rahtz ha scritto:<br>&gt; Tim Finney wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; There was a recent discussion which raised the possibility of using a<br>&gt; &gt; structure like this:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &lt;choice&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &lt;option type=&quot;abbr&quot;&gt;mann&amp;umacron;&lt;/option&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &lt;option type=&quot;expan&quot;&gt;mannum&lt;/option&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &lt;/choice&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Would it be possible to add this to the P5 schemas as an experimental<br>&gt; &gt; facility?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Better, someone could write an example schema which pulled<br>&gt; in P5 and made this change. Its not entirely clear to me<br>> what is affected. do we drop [...]','Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again','Wed, 4 Feb 2004 10:48:58 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=12830">Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Roberto Rosselli Del Turco</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 4 Feb 2004 10:48:58 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">51 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('The idea, so far as it got, was not to abandon &lt;abbr&gt; and &lt;expan&gt;, but to remove<br>their attributes (expan and abbr, respectively). So &lt;choice&gt; would have a<br>content model of which allowed pairs such as &lt;abbr&gt; and &lt;expan&gt;, &lt;corr&gt; and<br>&lt;sic&gt;, &lt;reg&gt; and &lt;orig&gt;. I like the &lt;option&gt; option too, which might go some<br>way to solving the basic problem of deciding what is meaningful content inside<br>the &lt;option&gt; element and whether or not to remove the attributes. [...]','Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again','Wed, 4 Feb 2004 09:57:25 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=14457">Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Lou Burnard</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 4 Feb 2004 09:57:25 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">62 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Roberto Rosselli Del Turco wrote:<br><br>&gt;<br>&gt; Hmmm, I\'m afraid I\'ll have to delve deeper in this schema/RelaxNG stuff:<br>&gt; any pointers to introductory documents? Thanks in advance.<br>&gt;<br><br>http://www.tei-c.org/P5/ has a section at the end of links<br>to web sites about Relax NG. There is a good simple tutorial<br>on the main relax site, or you might like to purchase<br>Eric van der Vlist\'s new O\'Reilly book on the subject<br>of RelaxNG, which is comprehensive. [...]','Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again','Wed, 4 Feb 2004 09:57:47 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=15223">Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 4 Feb 2004 09:57:47 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">39 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('The solution proposed by the Medieval Nordic Text Archive<br>(MENOTA) is to put each word inside a &lt;w&gt; element, within<br>which one provides three separate renderings, each within<br>its own element: &lt;facs&gt; for the facsimile rendering, &lt;dipl&gt;<br>for the diplomatic rendering (in which the element &lt;expan&gt;<br>is used), and &lt;norm&gt; for the normalised rendering (this<br>obviously requires tinkering with the DTD, since currently<br>you can\'t put much of anything inside &lt;w&gt;). [...]','Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again','Wed, 4 Feb 2004 17:06:28 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=18805">Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">M. J. Driscoll</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 4 Feb 2004 17:06:28 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">44 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="6"></a><a href="#6">Announcing the outcome of the TEI Elections in November 2003</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Syd Bauman made me aware that the outcome of the elections to the TEI<br>Technical Council and Board of Directors to TEI-L which took place at<br>the TEI Consortium Members Meeting in Nancy, November 7-8, 2003, had<br>not been announced on the TEI-L. Sorry about that, here it finally<br>comes.<br><br>The following persons were elected to the TEI Council for the period<br>2004-2005: [...]','Announcing the outcome of the TEI Elections in November 2003','Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:13:57 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=56363">Announcing the outcome of the TEI Elections in November 2003</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tone Merete Bruvik</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:13:57 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">59 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="7"></a><a href="#7">Beginner's questions on <xref> and declarations</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('I\'m having to deal for the first time with references that will<br>address locations in XML files external to the current document. (The<br>situation is a digitized version of a 6-volume printed work, where<br>each volume will exist as a separate XML file; I need to handle<br>cross-references from one volume to another.) I have a couple of<br>beginner\'s questions. [...]','Beginner\'s questions on &lt;xref&gt; and declarations','Tue, 3 Feb 2004 11:49:54 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=8640">Beginner's questions on <xref> and declarations</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">David Sewell</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 3 Feb 2004 11:49:54 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">45 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('David Sewell wrote:<br>&gt; I\'m having to deal for the first time with references that will<br>&gt; address locations in XML files external to the current document. (The<br>&gt; situation is a digitized version of a 6-volume printed work, where<br>&gt; each volume will exist as a separate XML file; I need to handle<br>&gt; cross-references from one volume to another.) [...]','Re: Beginner\'s questions on &lt;xref&gt; and declarations','Tue, 3 Feb 2004 16:53:29 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=9202">Re: Beginner's questions on <xref> and declarations</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 3 Feb 2004 16:53:29 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">34 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('&gt; &lt;!NOTATION xml PUBLIC &quot;someplace&quot;&gt; &lt;!-- value for \'someplace\'? --&gt;<br><br>Back towards the end of Dec 2004 I spent some time surfing for this<br>information, and found no official information. I did find two FPIs<br>for XML:<br><br>&quot;ISO 8879//NOTATION Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.0//EN&quot; [1]<br>&quot;-//W3C//NOTATION Extensible Markup Language//EN&quot; [2]<br><br>Otherwise your declarations are correct, although there is a lot to<br>be said for using Sebastian\'s url= attribute instead. (In either<br>case, it is reasonable to presume there will be software to automate<br>a conversion to whatever P5 uses.) [...]','Re: Beginner\'s questions on &lt;xref&gt; and declarations','Tue, 3 Feb 2004 12:49:54 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=9829">Re: Beginner's questions on <xref> and declarations</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 3 Feb 2004 12:49:54 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">44 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Oops, deleted the footnotes:<br><br>&gt; &quot;ISO 8879//NOTATION Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.0//EN&quot; [1]<br>&gt; &quot;-//W3C//NOTATION Extensible Markup Language//EN&quot; [2]<br><br>Notes<br>-----<br>[1] Found at:<br>http://validator.w3.org/sgml-lib/REC-xhtml-basic-20001219/xhtml-notations-1.mod<br>[2] A creation of Eliot Kimber\'s, found at<br>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-sgml-wg/msg02893.html','Re: Beginner\'s questions on &lt;xref&gt; and declarations','Tue, 3 Feb 2004 13:47:25 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=10681">Re: Beginner's questions on <xref> and declarations</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 3 Feb 2004 13:47:25 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">22 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="8"></a><a href="#8">containing or linking was Re: [TEI-L] About abbreviations and corrections, again (fwd)</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('I know that this thread has veered into schema testing territory.<br><br>I do howver waqnt to pick up on one of Dan\'s earlier interventions before<br>the thread veered off into questions of wrapping.<br><br>What Dan proposes below is the classic ID/IDREF mechanism applied to<br>abbreviations and expansions. The interesting use case it offers is to<br>have a listing of expansions and through values of &lt;attr&gt;corresp&lt;/attr&gt;<br>create links. I.e. markup the expansion once and have all relevant<br>abbreviations point to the expansion. Such a content model also permits<br>the encoder to handle cases where the expansion might be ambiguous (the<br>abbreviation [...]','containing or linking was Re: [TEI-L] About abbreviations and corrections, again (fwd)','Wed, 4 Feb 2004 12:53:49 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=19497">containing or linking was Re: [TEI-L] About abbreviations and corrections, again (fwd)</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Francois Lachance</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 4 Feb 2004 12:53:49 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">115 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="9"></a><a href="#9">Content Modelling Methods and Processing Patterns was Re: [TEI-L] URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's (fwd)</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Sebastian in a response to Stuart gave a listing of the possibilities:<br><br>&gt; sure, your method is fine. I was not trying to decry some<br>&gt; methods, but there is a spectrum from<br>&gt; - url=foo<br>&gt; - ref-&gt;key-&gt;url<br>&gt; - ref-&gt;resolver-&gt;url<br>&gt; - ref-&gt;bibliography (a route we have not mentioned yet)<br>&gt;<br>&gt; and different methods may suit different circumstances [...]','Content Modelling Methods and Processing Patterns was Re: [TEI-L] URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner\'s (fwd)','Fri, 6 Feb 2004 07:52:02 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=32293">Content Modelling Methods and Processing Patterns was Re: [TEI-L] URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's (fwd)</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Francois Lachance</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 6 Feb 2004 07:52:02 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">46 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('&gt; Thanks this has supplied me (and perhaps others) with a set of keywords<br>&gt; [key, resolver, uri, url] to catch up with the technical aspects of the<br>&gt; discussion and learn more about digital object identifiers.<br><br>I think you are crediting me with using technical terms when<br>I did not intend to.<br>* we all know what URLs are<br>* by &quot;key&quot;, I mean using the existing &lt;rs&gt; system in the TEI<br>* by &quot;resolver&quot;, I mean a program which does a database<br>look up and returns a URL. [...]','Re: Content Modelling Methods and Processing Patterns was Re: [TEI-L] URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner\'s (fwd)','Fri, 6 Feb 2004 13:05:33 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=32986">Re: Content Modelling Methods and Processing Patterns was Re: [TEI-L] URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's (fwd)</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 6 Feb 2004 13:05:33 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">30 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="10"></a><a href="#10">Digital Resources in the Humanities 2004 - Call for Proposals</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('CALL FOR PROPOSALS: DRH 2004<br><br>**** Deadline: March 15th 2004 ****<br><br>DRH 2004: Digital Resources for the Humanities<br>University of Newcastle, UK<br><br>Sunday 5th September – Wednesday 8th September 2004<br>Conference URL - http://drh2004.ncl.ac.uk/<br><br>The DRH conferences have established themselves firmly in the UK and<br>international calendar as a major forum bringing together scholars,<br>librarians, archivists, curators, information scientists and computing<br>professionals in a unique and positive way, to share ideas and information<br>about the creation, exploitation, management and preservation of digital<br>resources in the arts and humanities. [...]','Digital Resources in the Humanities 2004 - Call for Proposals','Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:14:54 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=56975">Digital Resources in the Humanities 2004 - Call for Proposals</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Michael Fraser</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:14:54 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">49 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="11"></a><a href="#11">div* problem</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi all,<br><br>I\'m coordinating a project for the encoding of Italian Opera librettos.<br>The texts are structurally quite complex and I’m encountering a number<br>of problems.<br><br>The main one is concerning the div*. Sometimes a scene (encoded with<br>&lt;div2&gt;, while the act is encoded with a &lt;div1&gt;) is composed by<br>simultaneous speeches - sequences -, rendered in the sources with columns. [...]','div* problem','Mon, 9 Feb 2004 11:07:26 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=36800">div* problem</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Elena Pierazzo</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 9 Feb 2004 11:07:26 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">94 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi all,<br><br>after a very fruitful mail exchange with Michael Beddow, I\'ve changed<br>approach to solve my problem, and I decide not encoding the sequences as<br>div*, but creating a new element &lt;sequence&gt; with almost the same<br>content model of a &lt;div&gt; (with the exception that it can\'t include other<br>div*) and I\'ve include it in the chunk class in the following way: [...]','Re: div* problem','Mon, 9 Feb 2004 15:59:26 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=37380">Re: div* problem</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Elena Pierazzo</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 9 Feb 2004 15:59:26 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">34 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('First, I have to admit I\'m not 100% sure what it is you are trying to<br>indicate as simultaneous -- just the beginnings and ends of these<br>&quot;sequences&quot;, or each individual &lt;sp&gt; within them, or each individual<br>typographic line within them (or something else)?<br><br>In any case, the first thing to note is that P4 provides a mechanism<br>for this very purpose, either in 14.4.1 &quot;Correspondence&quot; if what you<br>wish to do is indicate that these two sections of text correspond<br>somehow -- perhaps what you\'d need to encode Simon &amp; Garfunkel\'s &quot;7<br>o\'clock News/Silent Night" (which I\'m guessing is [...]','Re: div* problem','Tue, 10 Feb 2004 00:01:59 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=41461">Re: div* problem</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 10 Feb 2004 00:01:59 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">133 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi Syd,<br><br>&gt;First, I have to admit I\'m not 100% sure what it is you are trying to<br>&gt;indicate as simultaneous -- just the beginnings and ends of these<br>&gt;&quot;sequences&quot;, or each individual &lt;sp&gt; within them, or each individual<br>&gt;typographic line within them (or something else)?<br>&gt;<br>The simultaneous sequence are composed by lots of &lt;sp&gt;, &lt;stage&gt;, &quot;aria&quot;<br>(encoded with &lt;lg&gt;), recitative (encoded either with &lt;p&gt;, or &lt;lg&gt;,<br>depending on the text) and the correspondence is between sequences and<br>not between &lt;sp&gt; (or &lt;lg&gt; or &lt;p&gt;) because in librettos the music<br>interludes can be "stretched" or "compressed" depending on the [...]','Re: div* problem','Tue, 10 Feb 2004 10:11:27 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=42260">Re: div* problem</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Elena Pierazzo</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 10 Feb 2004 10:11:27 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">190 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('&gt; Yes, we are using a very flexible search engine that can process<br>&gt; any kind of elements.<br><br>Except, apparently, empty ones :-)<br>Seriously, it sounds cool -- what are you using?<br><br>&gt; Maybe I\'ve been influenced by the Italian meaning of the term<br>&gt; &quot;sequenza&quot;... from a narratological point of view is a<br>&gt; homogeneous series of narrative elements. Is it possible to use<br>&gt; the word &quot;sequence&quot; in English with this meaning? [...]','Re: div* problem','Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:22:44 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=45185">Re: div* problem</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:22:44 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">54 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="12"></a><a href="#12">EAD/Etext/XML Courses at Rare Book School</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('&nbsp;','EAD/Etext/XML Courses at Rare Book School','Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:52:59 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=57915">EAD/Etext/XML Courses at Rare Book School</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Rare Book School</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:52:59 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">111 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="13"></a><a href="#13">extending TEI</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('&gt; If you were careful, you should be<br><br>&gt;&gt;able to design a &quot;mock TEI&quot; that would work with your stylesheets. I\'m not<br>&gt;&gt;saying this is necessarily a good idea; but it is an intriguing alternative<br>&gt;&gt;to the usually recommended one for developing towards your own local<br>&gt;&gt;version. If done properly, the final outcome could well be a set of<br>&gt;&gt;extension files that would work with off-the-shelf TEI in the mandated way.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>And its really not that big a deal to write TEI P4 extension files.<br>I personally never used the pizza chef when I first [...]','extending TEI','Thu, 19 Feb 2004 23:11:47 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=65213">extending TEI</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 19 Feb 2004 23:11:47 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">64 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="14"></a><a href="#14">Extreme Markup Languages 2004 Call for Participation</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Montreal in August: what could be better?<br>Great food, great coffee, and a funky hotel full of markup geeks!<br><br>CALL FOR PARTICIPATION<br>EXTREME MARKUP LANGUAGES 2004<br><br>ABOUT THE CONFERENCE<br><br>Extreme is a technical conference devoted to markup, markup languages,<br>markup systems, markup applications, and software for manipulating and<br>exploiting markup.<br><br>WHEN: August 2-6, 2004<br>WHERE: MontrĂ©al, Canada<br>SPONSOR: IDEAlliance<br><br>TO PARTICIPATE [...]','Extreme Markup Languages 2004 Call for Participation','Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:12:02 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=21982">Extreme Markup Languages 2004 Call for Participation</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:12:02 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">73 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="15"></a><a href="#15">feature structures Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again (fwd)</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('The Medieval Nordic Text Archive solution described below [using multiple<br>&lt;gi&gt;w&lt;/gi&gt;] can be made TEI conformant without DTD modification or<br>tinkering. One can use the feature structures tag set (Chapter 16 of the<br>Guidelines). Indeed it seems ideal for such a use case.<br><br>&gt; From: &quot;M. J. Driscoll&quot; &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;<br>&gt; Subject: Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again<br>&gt;<br>&gt; The solution proposed by the Medieval Nordic Text Archive<br>&gt; (MENOTA) is to put each word inside a &lt;w&gt; element, within<br>&gt; which one provides three separate renderings, each within<br>&gt; its own element: &lt;facs&gt; for the facsimile rendering, &lt;dipl&gt;<br>> [...]','feature structures Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again (fwd)','Wed, 4 Feb 2004 12:57:33 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=20439">feature structures Re: About abbreviations and corrections, again (fwd)</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Francois Lachance</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 4 Feb 2004 12:57:33 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">66 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="16"></a><a href="#16">File size limitations with TEI-Emacs, Windows version?</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Emacs folk,<br><br>I\'m working with a typesetting company on a conversion to TEI-XML of<br>print volumes for which they have the files, and their tech person tells<br>me:<br><br>Also, for what it\'s worth, I\'m using tei-emacs on a PC (windows)<br>system, and it gets unwieldy with file sizes over 100k. I haven\'t<br>figured out how to increase it\'s limit, or if that\'s even possible, so<br>it\'s easier for me to work with smaller files. [...]','File size limitations with TEI-Emacs, Windows version?','Mon, 9 Feb 2004 12:51:58 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=38636">File size limitations with TEI-Emacs, Windows version?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">David Sewell</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 9 Feb 2004 12:51:58 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">36 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 12:51:58PM -0500, David Sewell wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Also, for what it\'s worth, I\'m using tei-emacs on a PC (windows)<br>&gt; system, and it gets unwieldy with file sizes over 100k. I haven\'t<br>&gt; figured out how to increase it\'s limit, or if that\'s even possible, so<br>&gt; it\'s easier for me to work with smaller files.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Obviously that makes it impossible to put a single volume into a single<br>&gt; TEI.2 element as desired. I don\'t use Emacs (and if I did it wouldn\'t be<br>> under Windows anyway); can anyone familiar [...]','Re: File size limitations with TEI-Emacs, Windows version?','Mon, 9 Feb 2004 19:57:47 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=39922">Re: File size limitations with TEI-Emacs, Windows version?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 9 Feb 2004 19:57:47 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">37 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Performance of tei-emacs seems to depend on<br>- how much memory the PC has available, real or virtual.<br>- how many tags there are in the document<br><br>100Kb seems absurdly small to me, though. I routinely use emacs on a PC<br>for editing files up to 5 times as big without any problem.<br><br>Sebastian Rahtz wrote: [...]','Re: File size limitations with TEI-Emacs, Windows version?','Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:00:50 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=44608">Re: File size limitations with TEI-Emacs, Windows version?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Lou Burnard</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:00:50 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">53 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('As Sebastian suggested below, the issue may be related to nxml-mode,<br>which validates immediately upon opening the file and continually<br>throughout the editing process. This can be a little slow with large<br>documents, at least on the first pass through a file. If the extra<br>overhead of continual validation is the problem, you can turn off<br>validation (with C-c C-v) to speed things up, and turn validation back<br>on (again, with C-c C-v) as needed. [...]','Re: File size limitations with TEI-Emacs, Windows version?','Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:19:42 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=45831">Re: File size limitations with TEI-Emacs, Windows version?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">John A. Walsh</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:19:42 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">75 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="17"></a><a href="#17">ID attribute for entries?</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('I\'m just at the outset of a task of marking up a catalog that I\'ve<br>recently digitized. I\'d like to use TEI, but I\'m not sure if I can,<br>because I can\'t seem to identify a set of tags that is appropriate to<br>this kind of document, which, although it is called a catalog, has more<br>of the format of a dictionary. For example, I\'d like to use the tag<br>&lt;entry&gt; to separate the entries in this catalog, but it seems like<br>&lt;entry&gt; is a tag that is specific to lexicons. So I\'m presently hung up<br>between the alternatives of [...]','ID attribute for entries?','Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:37:29 +0900')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=60373">ID attribute for entries?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Charles Muller</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:37:29 +0900</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">47 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Charles Muller wrote:<br><br>&gt; But, on the first<br>&gt; entry in the catalog, which looks like this<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &lt;entry id=&quot;K0001&quot;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I received a parser error of<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &quot;attribute id not declared for element entry&quot;<br><br>This was my error, in forgetting to include the TEI.dictionaries entity<br>in the header. Sorry to waste anyone\'s time. It\'s been almost a year<br>since I did this sort of thing seriously, and I seem to forget about 50%<br>of what I knew.... [...]','Re: ID attribute for entries?','Thu, 19 Feb 2004 19:24:58 +0900')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=61088">Re: ID attribute for entries?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Charles Muller</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 19 Feb 2004 19:24:58 +0900</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">41 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Glad you caught it; no big deal.<br><br>On the other hand, I\'d like to adress your bigger question -- &quot;use<br>TEI for encoding my catalog-that\'s-like-a-dictionary-but-not, or make<br>my own DTD&quot; by suggesting that it is likely the best approach is the<br>middle road: to make your own extensions to the TEI DTD. E.g., you<br>say that &lt;entry&gt; is the element you want, but that it\'s not quite<br>right because it is &quot;specific to lexicons&quot;. I\'m not sure if the<br>problem is that the content model of &lt;entry&gt; makes no sense for your<br>catalog, or if <entry> cannot go in the [...]','Re: ID attribute for entries?','Thu, 19 Feb 2004 07:21:05 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=61783">Re: ID attribute for entries?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 19 Feb 2004 07:21:05 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">48 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Syd Bauman wrote:<br><br>&gt; Glad you caught it; no big deal.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On the other hand, I\'d like to adress your bigger question -- &quot;use<br>&gt; TEI for encoding my catalog-that\'s-like-a-dictionary-but-not, or make<br>&gt; my own DTD&quot; by suggesting that it is likely the best approach is the<br>&gt; middle road: to make your own extensions to the TEI DTD. [...]','Re: ID attribute for entries?','Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:51:55 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=62566">Re: ID attribute for entries?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Charles Muller</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:51:55 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">82 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Charles Muller wrote:<br>&gt; To me, one of the above two seems to be the most attractive option, but<br>&gt; I realize that it means I\'ll have to try to do some work with the DTD<br>&gt; that scares me a bit.<br><br>Surely using something like Roma makes this a lot easier?<br>http://www.tei-c.org.uk/Roma/ [...]','Re: ID attribute for entries?','Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:39:42 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=63116">Re: ID attribute for entries?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">James Cummings</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:39:42 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">40 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Charles,<br><br>I can\'t resist weighing in on this, since it\'s a classic problem not just<br>for the TEI but for markup communities in general.<br><br>At 03:51 PM 2/20/2004, you wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; On the other hand, I\'d like to adress your bigger question -- &quot;use<br>&gt; &gt; TEI for encoding my catalog-that\'s-like-a-dictionary-but-not, or make<br>&gt; &gt; my own DTD&quot; by suggesting that it is likely the best approach is the<br>&gt; &gt; middle road: to make your own extensions to the TEI DTD.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;I had thought that this might be possible, but wading through the TEI<br>>DTD, finding the [...]','Re: ID attribute for entries?','Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:59:56 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=63645">Re: ID attribute for entries?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wendell Piez</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:59:56 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">97 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Sebastian Rahtz wrote:<br><br>&gt; &gt;Surely using something like Roma makes this a lot easier?<br>&gt; &gt;http://www.tei-c.org.uk/Roma/<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &quot;something like Roma&quot;? is there anything else like Roma? :-}<br><br>Surely Carthage/Pizza Chef could be called &quot;Something like Roma&quot;<br>but obviously inferior. ;-)<br><br>&gt; indeed. I never claimed it was working on the .org site. Its<br>&gt; only available on tei-c.org.uk. I have not yet had time<br>&gt; to follow up on the missing Perl libraries in Virginia. [...]','Re: ID attribute for entries?','Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:05:04 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=64447">Re: ID attribute for entries?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">James Cummings</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:05:04 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">34 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('James Cummings wrote:<br><br>&gt; On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Charles Muller wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; To me, one of the above two seems to be the most attractive option, but<br>&gt; &gt; I realize that it means I\'ll have to try to do some work with the DTD<br>&gt; &gt; that scares me a bit.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Surely using something like Roma makes this a lot easier?<br>&gt; http://www.tei-c.org.uk/Roma/ [...]','Re: ID attribute for entries?','Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:14:38 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=66085">Re: ID attribute for entries?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Charles Muller</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:14:38 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">40 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('James Cummings wrote:<br>&gt; Surely using something like Roma makes this a lot easier?<br>&gt; http://www.tei-c.org.uk/Roma/<br><br>I\'m only getting blank files there when I &quot;Submit Query&quot;, no matter which<br>schema type is selected.<br><br>/Jelks','Re: ID attribute for entries?','Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:32:51 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=66651">Re: ID attribute for entries?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Jelks Cabaniss</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:32:51 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">20 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Jelks Cabaniss wrote:<br><br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;Surely using something like Roma makes this a lot easier?<br>&gt;&gt;http://www.tei-c.org.uk/Roma/<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;I\'m only getting blank files there when I &quot;Submit Query&quot;, no matter which<br>&gt;schema type is selected.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>I just tried a run, and it was fine. if you make no changes, just press<br>submit twice, does it fail?<br><br>I\'ll look at logs later, when I finish downloading two 700 Mbyte files<br>and thus free up my cable connection :-} [...]','Re: ID attribute for entries?','Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:44:17 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=67074">Re: ID attribute for entries?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:44:17 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">33 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Sebastian Rahtz wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Surely using something like Roma makes this a lot easier?<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; http://www.tei-c.org.uk/Roma/<br><br>&gt;&gt; I\'m only getting blank files there when I &quot;Submit Query&quot;, no matter<br>&gt;&gt; which schema type is selected.<br><br>&gt; I just tried a run, and it was fine. if you make no changes, just<br>&gt; press submit twice, does it fail? [...]','Re: ID attribute for entries?','Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:59:17 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=67870">Re: ID attribute for entries?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Jelks Cabaniss</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:59:17 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">30 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('&gt; &gt;&gt;Surely using something like Roma makes this a lot easier?<br><br>&gt; Jelks Cabaniss wrote:<br>&gt; &gt;I\'m only getting blank files there when I &quot;Submit Query&quot;, no matter which<br>&gt; &gt;schema type is selected.<br><br>&gt; &gt; Sebastian Rahtz wrote:<br>&gt; I just tried a run, and it was fine. if you make no changes, just press<br>&gt; submit twice, does it fail? [...]','Re: ID attribute for entries?','Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:10:46 -0600')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=68440">Re: ID attribute for entries?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Susan</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:10:46 -0600</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">31 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Susan wrote:<br>&gt; I\'m having problems with the Pizza Chef as well. Even when I make no<br>&gt; changes, the generated DTD contains a \' character on a line by itself. It\'s<br>&gt; simple enough to just delete that character, but does the fact that it was<br>&gt; inserted mean that my DTD could be otherwise corrupted? Perhaps the Pizza<br>&gt; Chef problem is my fault. Can\'t think why, but I\'m an extreme newbie to all<br>&gt; things XML.<br>&gt; [...]','Re: ID attribute for entries?','Sat, 21 Feb 2004 18:56:01 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=69008">Re: ID attribute for entries?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Lou Burnard</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sat, 21 Feb 2004 18:56:01 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">30 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Lou Burnard wrote:<br>&gt; Susan wrote:<br>&gt;&gt; I\'m having problems with the Pizza Chef as well.<br><br>&gt; I can\'t reproduce this problem. Please could you let me know (off<br>&gt; list)<br>&gt; -- which browser you are using on which platform<br>&gt; -- exactly what you see when you press the &quot;generate full dtd&quot; button<br>&gt; -- at what time and date the failure occurred [...]','Re: ID attribute for entries?','Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:03:23 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=69684">Re: ID attribute for entries?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Jelks Cabaniss</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:03:23 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">45 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Jelks Cabaniss<br><br>&gt; James Cummings wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; Surely using something like Roma makes this a lot easier?<br>&gt; &gt; http://www.tei-c.org.uk/Roma/<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I\'m only getting blank files there when I &quot;Submit Query&quot;, no matter which<br>&gt; schema type is selected.<br><br>I\'m glad to hear that I was not the only one having this problem<br>(Mozilla in Knoppix-Debian). I\'ll try again later today, and if the<br>problem repeats, I\'ll give exact access time. [...]','Re: ID attribute for entries?','Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:21:50 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=70246">Re: ID attribute for entries?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Charles Muller</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:21:50 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">38 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Charles Muller wrote:<br>&gt;&gt; I\'m only getting blank files there when I &quot;Submit Query&quot;, no matter<br>&gt;&gt; which schema type is selected.<br><br>&gt; I\'m glad to hear that I was not the only one having this problem<br>&gt; (Mozilla in Knoppix-Debian). I\'ll try again later today, and if the<br>&gt; problem repeats, I\'ll give exact access time. [...]','Re: ID attribute for entries?','Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:32:19 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=70908">Re: ID attribute for entries?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Jelks Cabaniss</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:32:19 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">24 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="18"></a><a href="#18">Illuminated initials</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Waiting for the Manuscript transcription and description SIG to manifest<br>its presence on the list, I have another manuscript related question:<br>how do you deal with an initial letter which is really an image, parts<br>of which are interspersed with the text on the ms page? (imagine<br>vegetal-like branches which go through several lines of text) Do you<br>just mark it as a decorated letter, noting the approximate space it<br>takes, or is it better to mark all the points where words are separated<br>by part of it? [...]','Illuminated initials','Wed, 4 Feb 2004 10:49:03 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=13754">Illuminated initials</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Roberto Rosselli Del Turco</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 4 Feb 2004 10:49:03 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">29 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('At the risk of being called naive I don\'t see any reason to want to<br>record the graphical detail of the original. Leave that to the<br>facsimile. If you feel a need to record such detail, ask first what you<br>are going to do with it in its transcribed form.<br><br>On Wednesday, February 4, 2004, at 07:49 PM, Roberto Rosselli Del<br>Turco wrote: [...]','Re: Illuminated initials','Wed, 4 Feb 2004 20:13:34 +1000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=16883">Re: Illuminated initials</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">desmond.schmidt</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 4 Feb 2004 20:13:34 +1000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">45 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Il mer, 2004-02-04 alle 11:13, desmond.schmidt ha scritto:<br>&gt; At the risk of being called naive I don\'t see any reason to want to<br>&gt; record the graphical detail of the original. Leave that to the<br>&gt; facsimile. If you feel a need to record such detail, ask first what you<br>&gt; are going to do with it in its transcribed form. [...]','Re: Illuminated initials','Wed, 4 Feb 2004 13:30:41 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=17415">Re: Illuminated initials</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Roberto Rosselli Del Turco</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 4 Feb 2004 13:30:41 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">43 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('When encoding Wittgenstein\'s MSS in Bergen, we adopted the approach of<br>permitting a feature like this to be both image and text. This allowed the<br>text output to include the grapheme and thus to create a whole word for<br>word lists, etc. However, it also recognized other features that directed<br>the user towards a graphical representation, e.g. facsimile as Desmond<br>suggests. The idea that image and text are not mutually exclusive was the<br>subject of my paper at DRH 2003. (<br>&lt;http://www.hcu.ox.ac.uk/ocs/viewabstract.php?id=50&gt;http://www.hcu.ox.ac.uk/ocs/viewabstract.php?id=50<br>). I am not the best person to specify how this should be achieved using TEI! [...]','Re: Illuminated initials','Wed, 4 Feb 2004 12:53:56 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=17942">Re: Illuminated initials</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Michael A R Biggs</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 4 Feb 2004 12:53:56 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">78 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('In einer eMail vom 04.02.04 15:07:27 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt<br>[log in to unmask]:<br><br>&gt; The idea that image and text are not mutually exclusive was the<br>&gt; subject of my paper at DRH 2003. (<br>&gt; &lt;http://www.hcu.ox.ac.uk/ocs/viewabstract.php?id=50&gt;<br>&gt; http://www.hcu.ox.ac.uk/ocs/viewabstract.php?id=50<br>&gt; ). I am not the best person to specify how this should be achieved using<br>&gt; TEI!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Michael Biggs<br>&gt; [...]','Re: Illuminated initials','Mon, 9 Feb 2004 13:21:17 EST')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=39275">Re: Illuminated initials</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Dr. Herbert Wender</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 9 Feb 2004 13:21:17 EST</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">99 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('In einer eMail vom 09.02.04 19:37:54 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt<br>[log in to unmask]:<br><br>&gt; the error in http://www.hcu.ox.ac.uk/ocs/viewabstract.php?id=50 seems to be<br>&gt; due to an erroneous placed &lt;/script&gt; tag in the head of the HTML file. (&lt;<br>&gt; /script&gt; should be placed before the commentary &lt;!-- END Dublin Core metatags --&gt;<br>&gt; ).<br><br>Sorry, but I don\'t think so; the end-tag follows directly the script-tag,<br>*before* the beginning of the meta-data section: [...]','Re: Illuminated initials','Mon, 9 Feb 2004 18:44:10 EST')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=40754">Re: Illuminated initials</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Dr. Herbert Wender</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 9 Feb 2004 18:44:10 EST</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">118 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="19"></a><a href="#19">languages in TEI Lite</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi all,<br><br>examining the TEI Lite Manual in order to prepare my Text Encoding<br>courses, I noticed some possible inconsistencies in the section devoted<br>to the explanation of different language encoding.<br><br>Here the list of the points I\'ve identified:<br><br>- The &lt;language&gt; element is missing from the Appendix A.2 (Elements in<br>TEI Lite), but it is present, obviously, in the TEI Lite DTD.<br>- In the chap. 20 (The Electronic Title Page) there are no examples of<br>the usage of the &lt;langUsage&gt; element, so it is not possible to<br>understand that inside &lt;langUsage&gt; the &lt;language&gt; element can be used.<br>- [...]','languages in TEI Lite','Tue, 10 Feb 2004 15:31:55 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=43166">languages in TEI Lite</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Elena Pierazzo</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 10 Feb 2004 15:31:55 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">29 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="20"></a><a href="#20">Lou's travelling TEI show.</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('I saw this truck outside of NYU today. Had to take a picture.<br><br>Lou, can we get this phone number?<br><br>http://homepages.nyu.edu/~mz34/tei/tei.html<br><br>MZ','Lou\'s travelling TEI show.','Wed, 25 Feb 2004 13:33:17 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=79283">Lou's travelling TEI show.</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Matthew Zimmerman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 25 Feb 2004 13:33:17 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">22 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Thanks for this... clearly a worthy addition to the NotTheTEI web pages.<br>(and also a reminder of the quaint old telephones you chaps have, with<br>letters as well as numbers!)<br><br>L<br><br>Matthew Zimmerman wrote:<br><br>&gt; I saw this truck outside of NYU today. Had to take a picture.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Lou, can we get this phone number?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; http://homepages.nyu.edu/~mz34/tei/tei.html<br>&gt;<br>&gt; MZ<br>&gt; _________________<br>&gt; Matthew Zimmerman<br>&gt; Humanities Computing Group, NYU<br>&gt; Tel: 212.998.3038<br>&gt; Fax: 212.995.4120<br>&gt;','Re: Lou\'s travelling TEI show.','Wed, 25 Feb 2004 23:19:49 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=79608">Re: Lou's travelling TEI show.</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Lou Burnard</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 25 Feb 2004 23:19:49 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">34 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('At 01:33 PM 2/25/2004, you wrote:<br>&gt;I saw this truck outside of NYU today. Had to take a picture.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Lou, can we get this phone number?<br>&gt;<br>&gt;http://homepages.nyu.edu/~mz34/tei/tei.html<br><br>And yesterday on the highway I saw ...<br><br>http://www.truckersexpress.com/<br><br>Cheers,<br>Wendell<br><br>___&amp;&amp;__&amp;_&amp;___&amp;_&amp;__&amp;&amp;&amp;__&amp;_&amp;__&amp;__&amp;&amp;____&amp;&amp;_&amp;___&amp;__&amp;_&amp;&amp;_____&amp;__&amp;__&amp;&amp;_____&amp;_&amp;&amp;_<br>&quot;Thus I make my own use of the telegraph, without consulting<br>the directors, like the sparrows, which I perceive use it<br>extensively for a perch.&quot; -- Thoreau','Re: Lou\'s travelling TEI show.','Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:54:54 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=84475">Re: Lou's travelling TEI show.</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wendell Piez</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:54:54 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">28 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="21"></a><a href="#21">Pizza Chef</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi<br><br>Hope I haven\'t broken the Pizza Chef... It was working one minute and<br>now doesn\'t seem to be taking any notice of my local extension files.<br><br>I got a couple of errors earlier (at one point it didn\'t like the fact<br>that I was redefining TEI.2 (just making the id required)), though then<br>didn\'t complain again. [...]','Pizza Chef','Thu, 26 Feb 2004 15:59:49 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=81166">Pizza Chef</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Brad Scott</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 26 Feb 2004 15:59:49 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">41 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="22"></a><a href="#22">precedence of Guidelines vs. DTD</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Kevin Hawkins has raised in this thread (joined by Francois Lachance)<br>both a general issue and a specific problem, both of which are<br>important. They are &quot;which takes precedence, the prose or the DTD&quot;,<br>and &quot;shouldn\'t the content model for &lt;publicationStmt&gt; be stricter&quot;,<br>respectively.<br><br>I will address each issue with a separate post, each of which will be<br>a reply like this one but with a new subject field. [...]','Re: precedence of Guidelines vs. DTD','Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:06:48 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=81665">Re: precedence of Guidelines vs. DTD</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:06:48 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">28 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="23"></a><a href="#23">R: About abbreviations and corrections, again</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Hi everybody, this is my first posting in this list but I\'m reading it since<br>a long time.<br>I\'m studying the use of TEI to realize critical editions of Romance Medieval<br>texts based.<br><br>&gt; On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Hans G. Ehrbar wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; While we are at the subject: can this choice structure also be used<br>&gt; &gt; for page breaks which fall inside a word?<br>&gt; &gt; For instance<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &lt;choice&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &lt;option type=&quot;xxxx&quot;&gt;reconstituted&lt;/option&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &lt;option type=&quot;yyyy&quot;&gt;reconsti- &lt;pb n=&quot;77&quot;&gt;<br>&gt; tuted&lt;/option&gt; &lt;/choice&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>> > What would be good keywords [...]','R: About abbreviations and corrections, again','Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:04:37 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=15960">R: About abbreviations and corrections, again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Paolo Rembadi</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:04:37 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">49 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="24"></a><a href="#24">RE level attribute was [TEI-L] <div> versus <divN> again</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('I am wondering if &lt;attr&gt;n&lt;/attr&gt; on &lt;gi&gt;div&lt;/gi&gt; would not come close to<br>doing what David suggests below. The values of &lt;attr&gt;n&lt;/attr&gt; need not be<br>sequential (e.g. 5, 6, 7, 8, ...) It is possible to encode several<br>&lt;gi&gt;div&lt;/gi&gt; with the same value for &lt;att&gt;n&lt;/attr&gt;<br><br>&lt;div n=&quot;3&quot;&gt;<br>&lt;div n=&quot;3&quot;&gt;<br>&lt;div n=&quot;3&quot;&gt;<br><br>This is not the equivalent of using numbered divs. It does provide some<br>interesting flexibility applicable perhaps to a use canse involving<br>complex metaleptic narratives. [...]','RE level attribute was [TEI-L] &lt;div&gt; versus &lt;divN&gt; again','Sat, 14 Feb 2004 09:41:29 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=52749">RE level attribute was [TEI-L] <div> versus <divN> again</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Francois Lachance</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sat, 14 Feb 2004 09:41:29 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">70 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="25"></a><a href="#25">Roma oddities (was ID attribute for entries?)</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('I have corrected one error in Roma (the spurious copy of the schema in<br>the middle of the<br>form), but cannot understand why IE6 fails to work. If anyone out there<br>can suggest<br>what I am doing wrong, I\'d be very happy. This is really a pretty simple<br>Perl CGI.pm cgi script.<br><br>I suppose the moral is &quot;don\'t use proprietary software&quot; [...]','Roma oddities (was ID attribute for entries?)','Sat, 21 Feb 2004 18:40:12 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=71440">Roma oddities (was ID attribute for entries?)</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sat, 21 Feb 2004 18:40:12 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">22 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Sebastian Rahtz wrote:<br>&gt; I have corrected one error in Roma (the spurious copy of the schema in<br>&gt; the middle of the form), but cannot understand why IE6 fails to work.<br><br>Opera fails too (acting even more strangely than IE), as does Moz on Knoppix<br>(according to Chuck Muller).<br><br>&gt; If anyone out there can suggest what I am doing wrong, I\'d<br>&gt; be very happy. This is really a pretty simple Perl CGI.pm<br>&gt; cgi script. [...]','Re: Roma oddities (was ID attribute for entries?)','Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:14:48 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=72051">Re: Roma oddities (was ID attribute for entries?)</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Jelks Cabaniss</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:14:48 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">55 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Jelks Cabaniss wrote:<br><br>&gt;Opera fails too (acting even more strangely than IE), as does Moz on Knoppix<br>&gt;(according to Chuck Muller).<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>on way can Moz under Knoppix fail! I have tested these scripts far too<br>many times<br>under Knoppix and Linux.....<br><br>&gt;I don\'t think the problem is with the CGI part; it\'s with the [x]HTML that<br>&gt;it\'s dishing out. I\'d warrant that when it can pass<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>I just don\'t but this, but I\'ll work on it now anyway [...]','Re: Roma oddities (was ID attribute for entries?)','Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:13:31 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=72694">Re: Roma oddities (was ID attribute for entries?)</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:13:31 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">31 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="26"></a><a href="#26">Roma redivivus</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('I claim that http://www.tei-c.org.uk/Roma now works properly with IE6<br>again, and with Mozilla.<br>No idea about Opera, sorry.<br><br>Many thanks to Michael Beddow for finding the error - a newline at the start<br>of a long text string. Precisely why this should be an issue, I have no<br>idea!<br><br>I have also made it NOT claim to be xhtml any more, just original SGML HTML,<br>but some of the well-formedness errors are fixed. [...]','Roma redivivus','Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:53:33 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=73467">Roma redivivus</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:53:33 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">30 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Sebastian Rahtz wrote:<br>&gt; I claim that http://www.tei-c.org.uk/Roma now works properly with IE6<br>&gt; again, and with Mozilla.<br>&gt; No idea about Opera, sorry.<br><br>Yes! Works fine in Opera too, though slightly differently -- the requested<br>schema shows up in the browser instead of giving you a file to save.<br><br>Thank you!<br><br>/Jelks','Re: Roma redivivus','Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:20:32 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=74123">Re: Roma redivivus</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Jelks Cabaniss</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:20:32 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">23 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Jelks Cabaniss wrote:<br><br>&gt;Sebastian Rahtz wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;I claim that http://www.tei-c.org.uk/Roma now works properly with IE6<br>&gt;&gt;again, and with Mozilla.<br>&gt;&gt;No idea about Opera, sorry.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Yes! Works fine in Opera too, though slightly differently -- the requested<br>&gt;schema shows up in the browser instead of giving you a file to save.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br><br>now you can find out if the schema actually _works_..... [...]','Re: Roma redivivus','Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:26:42 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=74632">Re: Roma redivivus</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:26:42 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">31 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Sebastian Rahtz wrote:<br>&gt; now you can find out if the schema actually _works_.....<br><br>Just curious -- why does the DTD option for &quot;Old Style P4 names, no<br>namespace&quot; use &lt;TEI&gt; (like the P5 version), but still declare an<br>&quot;attributes.teiCorpus.2&quot; parameter entity?<br><br>On the other hand, you need &lt;TEI.2&gt; for RNC (didn\'t test RNG, though it\'s<br>probably the same) for that option. [...]','Re: Roma redivivus','Sun, 22 Feb 2004 20:23:23 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=75356">Re: Roma redivivus</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Jelks Cabaniss</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sun, 22 Feb 2004 20:23:23 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">25 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('&gt; Sebastian Rahtz wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; I claim that http://www.tei-c.org.uk/Roma now works properly with IE6<br>&gt; &gt; again, and with Mozilla.<br>&gt; &gt; No idea about Opera, sorry.<br><br>I am now able to generate an RNC file with Konqueror and Mozilla in<br>Debian, but when I try to generate a DTD, I still get a zero-byte<br>file. This is my first attempt at using RNC, so I have no idea what I am<br>supposed to see, but when I try to create a new file in oXygen 3.1 using<br>the generated RNC file, I get a long list of validation [...]','Re: Roma redivivus','Mon, 23 Feb 2004 12:56:42 +0900')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=75944">Re: Roma redivivus</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Charles Muller</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 23 Feb 2004 12:56:42 +0900</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">135 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('&gt; &gt;Sebastian Rahtz wrote:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;I claim that http://www.tei-c.org.uk/Roma now works properly with IE6<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;again, and with Mozilla.<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;No idea about Opera, sorry.<br><br>In Windows, I am able to get an RNC file with Mozilla and IE6. But as<br>for a DTD, it\'s still &quot;no dice&quot; (as the TEI server messages are wont to<br>tell us. Am I the only one who finds this rude?). [...]','Re: Roma redivivus','Mon, 23 Feb 2004 13:37:54 +0900')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=76653">Re: Roma redivivus</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Charles Muller</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 23 Feb 2004 13:37:54 +0900</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">41 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Jelks Cabaniss wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Just curious -- why does the DTD option for &quot;Old Style P4 names, no<br>&gt; namespace&quot; use &lt;TEI&gt; (like the P5 version), but still declare an<br>&gt; &quot;attributes.teiCorpus.2&quot; parameter entity?<br><br>looks like a bug. I will investigate.','Re: Roma redivivus','Mon, 23 Feb 2004 08:35:44 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=77260">Re: Roma redivivus</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 23 Feb 2004 08:35:44 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">25 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Charles Muller wrote:<br><br>&gt;<br>&gt; In Windows, I am able to get an RNC file with Mozilla and IE6. But as<br>&gt; for a DTD, it\'s still &quot;no dice&quot; (as the TEI server messages are wont to<br>&gt; tell us. Am I the only one who finds this rude?).<br><br>sorry, its beyond our control at present. I find it annoying<br>too. [...]','Re: Roma redivivus','Mon, 23 Feb 2004 08:39:00 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=77789">Re: Roma redivivus</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 23 Feb 2004 08:39:00 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">27 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('&gt; This is my first attempt at using RNC, so I have no idea<br>what I am<br>&gt; supposed to see, but when I try to create a new file in oXygen 3.1 using<br>&gt; the generated RNC file, I get a long list of validation errors<br>&gt; immediately (sample below). I\'ll open up Windows and try to generate a<br>&gt; DTD file there.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Chuck<br>&gt;<br>&gt; ----------------errors.txt----------<br>&gt;<br>&gt; E multiple definitions of &quot;text&quot; without &quot;combine&quot; attribute<br>&gt; E multiple definitions of &quot;content.text&quot; without &quot;combine&quot; attribute<br>&gt; E multiple definitions of &quot;attributes.text&quot; without &quot;combine&quot; attribute<br>> E [...]','Re: Roma redivivus','Mon, 23 Feb 2004 10:51:00 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=78351">Re: Roma redivivus</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 23 Feb 2004 10:51:00 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">38 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="27"></a><a href="#27">some validating problems</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('KD&gt; 1. &lt;figure&gt; directly within a &lt;div&gt; does not validate, contrary<br>KD&gt; to the information in the element list.<br><br>MB&gt; Hmmm. It does for me and I can\'t see why it shouldn\'t for anyone<br>MB&gt; else. This may indeed be a baking mishap.<br><br>PB&gt; It might also be a (very) stale pizza. I used to have the same<br>PB&gt; problem. The P3 dtd\'s didn\'t allow &lt;figure&gt; directly in &lt;div&gt; [...]','Re: some validating problems','Wed, 18 Feb 2004 22:22:13 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=59771">Re: some validating problems</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 18 Feb 2004 22:22:13 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">59 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="28"></a><a href="#28">TAPoRware</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Dear TEI users,<br><br>A beta version of the TAPoRware text analysis tools are available to<br>brave souls who would like to try them or install them. See:<br><br>http://cheiron.mcmaster.ca/~taporware<br><br>You can try these tools off our server or you can download them,<br>install them and try them from your system. They operate on XML, HTML<br>and plain texts that you upload or that are elsewhere on the web.<br>There is minimal help and no tutorial at the moment - we are working<br>on more. [...]','TAPoRware','Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:17:52 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=993">TAPoRware</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Geoffrey Rockwell</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:17:52 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">27 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="29"></a><a href="#29">TEI Manuscipt SIG</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('The TEI Manuscript Special Interest Group website is now on-line and can<br>be consulted at &lt;http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/SIG/Manuscript/&gt;<br><br>The site outlines the SIG\'s goals and reports on its activities. It also<br>includes a report on its first meeting on the third annual TEI Members\'<br>Meeting in Nancy, France on 08 November 2003:<br>&lt;http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/SIG/Manuscript/mssigr01.html&gt;<br><br>Together with the launch of this site, a dedicated mailing list has been<br>set up. To join visit &lt;http://listserv.brown.edu/tei-ms-sig.html&gt;. [...]','TEI Manuscipt SIG','Thu, 26 Feb 2004 15:21:29 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=80404">TEI Manuscipt SIG</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Edward Vanhoutte</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 26 Feb 2004 15:21:29 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">46 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="30"></a><a href="#30">TEI on O'Reilly</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('An article on the O\'Reilly Network, &quot;Googling for XML&quot;:<br>http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2004/02/11/googlexml.html<br>includes a paragraph on searching for TEI documents.<br><br>Grady Harris<br>Atlanta','TEI on O\'Reilly','Sat, 14 Feb 2004 11:26:22 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=53588">TEI on O'Reilly</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Grady Harris</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sat, 14 Feb 2004 11:26:22 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">16 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="31"></a><a href="#31">Transcribing audio recordings</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('First I would like to publicly to thank Wendell, Michael, Sebastian,<br>and other XSLT answer-providers.<br><br>Second, though, I have a question or concern about Wendell\'s proposed<br>solution (copied here with slightly different whitespace indentation,<br>and using id() instead of key()):<br><br>&lt;xsl:template match=&quot;sp/p&quot;&gt;<br>&lt;p&gt;<br>&lt;xsl:if test=&quot;not(preceding-sibling::p)&quot;&gt;<br>&lt;b&gt;<br>&lt;xsl:apply-templates select=&quot;id(../@who)&quot;/&gt;<br>&lt;/b&gt;<br>&lt;xsl:text&gt;: &lt;/xsl:text&gt;<br>&lt;/xsl:if&gt;<br>&lt;xsl:apply-templates/&gt;<br>&lt;/p&gt;<br>&lt;/xsl:template&gt;<br><br>This seems odd to me; to process the who= in order to output a<br>specialized label (what TEI calls a &lt;speaker&gt; :-) when you hit the<br>first &lt;p&gt; child of &lt;sp&gt;, rather than when you hit the &lt;sp&gt; itself.<br>Even if we ignore the argument [...]','Re: Transcribing audio recordings','Wed, 18 Feb 2004 11:11:42 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=58096">Re: Transcribing audio recordings</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 18 Feb 2004 11:11:42 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">62 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('At 11:11 AM 2/18/2004, Syd wrote:<br>&gt;Ah, but now I see the light. (It\'s amazing how actually doing the<br>&gt;work illuminates what perhaps should have been obvious.) My solution<br>&gt;forces the label to be in its own &lt;html:p&gt; element, whereas Wendell\'s<br>&gt;permitted it to be the first text in the first &lt;html:p&gt;, which will<br>&gt;likely look look a lot better in most cases. [...]','Re: Transcribing audio recordings','Wed, 18 Feb 2004 16:07:58 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=59182">Re: Transcribing audio recordings</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wendell Piez</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 18 Feb 2004 16:07:58 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">88 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="32"></a><a href="#32">URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('A bunch of hugely simple questions :<br><br>why type the reference string? why not type that to which it<br>refers/points? I ask because one could be marking up a string that is not<br>in itself a URL<br><br>&gt; &gt; &lt;rs type=&quot;url&quot; key=&quot;FOO&quot;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Where FOO can be looked up somehow in the header, without use of poxy<br>&gt; &gt; entities. [...]','Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner\'s','Thu, 5 Feb 2004 21:32:18 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=29349">Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Francois Lachance</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 5 Feb 2004 21:32:18 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">63 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Francois Lachance wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; why type the reference string? why not type that to which it<br>&gt; refers/points? I ask because one could be marking up a string that is not<br>&gt; in itself a URL<br><br>fair point, yes.<br><br>&gt; Why use the header and not say &lt;gi&gt;back&lt;/gi&gt; or &lt;gi&gt;front&lt;/gi&gt; which could<br>&gt; be a &lt;gi&gt;tei.2&lt;/gi&gt; in a &lt;gi&gt;tei.Corpus&lt;/gi&gt; ? Didn\'t someone intimate in<br>&gt; this thread (Peter, I believe) that they wanted to separate out the<br>&gt; logical from the physical designators? [...]','Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner\'s','Fri, 6 Feb 2004 13:13:24 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=33842">Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 6 Feb 2004 13:13:24 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">63 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="33"></a><a href="#33">URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's questions on < xref> and declarations</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('This kind of brings up an issue which I think is of importance here (and<br>have harped on about more than once before, so if all this seems familiar<br>forgive a man his peccadillos).<br><br>At present, there seems to be a consensus that nobody really wants to use<br>the &lt;xptr doc=&quot;ENTITYREF&quot;/&gt; system. Most people (myself included) don\'t<br>like having to amend a DTD for every new document referenced, the NDATA<br>construct and ENTITY attribute type are really just relics of SGML which<br>shouldn\'t have been included in XML in the first place, and entity<br>construction anyway is not necessarily supported [...]','Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner\'s questions on &lt; xref&gt; and declarations','Thu, 5 Feb 2004 16:32:27 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=22662">Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's questions on < xref> and declarations</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Stuart Brown</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 5 Feb 2004 16:32:27 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">141 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('I haven\'t read the thread entirely, Stuart, but will XIndirect answer<br>your concerns?<br>http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/NOTE-XIndirect-20030612/','Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner\'s questions on &lt; xref&gt; and declarations','Thu, 5 Feb 2004 15:03:13 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=24128">Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's questions on < xref> and declarations</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 5 Feb 2004 15:03:13 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">15 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Sebastian wrote:<br>&gt; Peter and Stuart can have what they want by saying<br>&gt; eg<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &lt;xref url=&quot;/cgi-bin/resolver?id-=FOO&quot;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; where &quot;resolver&quot; is a script which looks up FOO in a database<br>&gt; and redirects to the right place.<br><br>Argh! So now I have to be able to write CGI? And this document is only<br>allowed to have working references when it is sat in a sibling directory to<br>cgi-bin? Anyway, it\'s not what *I* want. I have a nice working solution<br>already. And this does not say (in any way that an XML-only processor can<br>make any sense [...]','Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner\'s questions on &lt; xref&gt; and declarations','Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:49:56 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=29954">Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's questions on < xref> and declarations</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Stuart Brown</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:49:56 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">64 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Stuart Brown wrote:<br><br>&gt; Argh! So now I have to be able to write CGI?<br><br>yes. whats the big deal in that? call it &quot;web services&quot; if<br>you prefer<br><br>&gt; And this document is only<br>&gt; allowed to have working references when it is sat in a sibling directory to<br>&gt; cgi-bin?<br><br>no, you misunderstand<br><br>&gt; &lt;doc id=&quot;midston&quot; indirectLoc=&quot;/cgi-bin/resolver?id-=FOO&quot;&gt;&lt;title&gt;Middleton<br>&gt; Stoney: Excavation and Survey of a North Oxfordshire Parish,<br>&gt; 1970-82&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/doc&gt; [...]','Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner\'s questions on &lt; xref&gt; and declarations','Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:01:02 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=31434">Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's questions on < xref> and declarations</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:01:02 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">81 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="34"></a><a href="#34">URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's questions on <xref> and declarations</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('I don\'t know if this will work for David. It has worked for others in the<br>past and may work for others in the future. It doesn\'t involve<br>modifications to the DTD. It does have one advantage, if the URL for a<br>referenced resource changes, the URL has only to be changed in one place<br>in the TEI file. [...]','URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner\'s questions on &lt;xref&gt; and declarations','Wed, 4 Feb 2004 13:03:27 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=21409">URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's questions on <xref> and declarations</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Francois Lachance</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wed, 4 Feb 2004 13:03:27 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">87 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Like Stuart, I\'d want to have a centralized location to maintain links.<br>Our emblem book files contain hundreds or even thousands of references<br>to each other and to the project bibliography. The nice thing about<br>using entities for these references is that we have a single file with<br>entity definitions which we include in the internal DTD subset of all of<br>our XML files. [...]','Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner\'s questions on &lt;xref&gt; and declarations','Thu, 5 Feb 2004 20:40:28 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=23519">Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's questions on <xref> and declarations</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Peter Boot</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 5 Feb 2004 20:40:28 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">23 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Peter and Stuart can have what they want by saying<br>eg<br><br>&lt;xref url=&quot;/cgi-bin/resolver?id-=FOO&quot;&gt;<br><br>where &quot;resolver&quot; is a script which looks up FOO in a database and<br>redirects to the right place.<br><br>How to validate such instance files is left as an exercise for the reader.<br><br>Or, if you prefer<br>url=&quot;resolver&quot; target=&quot;FOO&quot;<br>or the like<br><br>My view is that this is not a TEI-specific problem, and so the TEI<br>should not come<br>up with its own solutions. [...]','Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner\'s questions on &lt;xref&gt; and declarations','Thu, 5 Feb 2004 21:43:42 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=24499">Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's questions on <xref> and declarations</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 5 Feb 2004 21:43:42 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">32 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('&gt; My view is that this is not a TEI-specific problem, and so the TEI<br>&gt; should not come up with its own solutions.<br><br>That seems reasonable.<br><br>&gt; &lt;xref url=&quot;/cgi-bin/resolver?id-=FOO&quot;&gt;<br><br>&gt;<br>&gt; where &quot;resolver&quot; is a script which looks up FOO in a database and<br>&gt; redirects to the right place.<br><br>A good solution should be declarative, I think (a script might be<br>necessary to actually follow the link, but you shouldn\'t need a running<br>script to understand what the link refers to). [...]','Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner\'s questions on &lt;xref&gt; and declarations','Thu, 5 Feb 2004 23:31:59 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=25325">Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's questions on <xref> and declarations</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Peter Boot</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 5 Feb 2004 23:31:59 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">34 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Peter Boot wrote:<br><br>&gt;<br>&gt; A good solution should be declarative, I think (a script might be<br>&gt; necessary to actually follow the link, but you shouldn\'t need a<br>&gt; running script to understand what the link refers to).<br><br>OK, lets go back to the TEI basics, and use<br><br>&lt;rs type=&quot;url&quot; key=&quot;FOO&quot;&gt;<br><br>Where FOO can be looked up somehow in the header, without use of poxy<br>entities. [...]','Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner\'s questions on &lt;xref&gt; and declarations','Thu, 5 Feb 2004 22:40:15 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=26101">Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's questions on <xref> and declarations</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 5 Feb 2004 22:40:15 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">28 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('&gt; &lt;rs type=&quot;url&quot; key=&quot;FOO&quot;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Where FOO can be looked up somehow in the header, without use of poxy<br>&gt; entities.<br><br>If I understand you correctly, in the header I\'ll have something like<br>&lt;xptr url=&quot;foo-url&quot; id=&quot;foo&quot;/&gt;<br>while in the text using<br>&lt;rs type=&quot;url&quot; key=&quot;foo&quot; from=&quot;id(...)&quot;&gt;<br><br>This seems all right. The \'from=&quot;id(...)&quot;\' is not the most beautiful of<br>markup constructs, but we\'ll need something with its functionality to<br>achieve the purpose of defining the url only once but using it repeatedly. [...]','Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner\'s questions on &lt;xref&gt; and declarations','Fri, 6 Feb 2004 00:02:54 +0100')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=26835">Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's questions on <xref> and declarations</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Peter Boot</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 6 Feb 2004 00:02:54 +0100</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">31 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Peter Boot wrote:<br><br>&gt;<br>&gt; If I understand you correctly, in the header I\'ll have something like<br>&gt; &lt;xptr url=&quot;foo-url&quot; id=&quot;foo&quot;/&gt;<br>&gt; while in the text using<br>&gt; &lt;rs type=&quot;url&quot; key=&quot;foo&quot; from=&quot;id(...)&quot;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>yes, something like that.<br><br>&gt; This seems all right. The \'from=&quot;id(...)&quot;\' is not the most beautiful<br>&gt; of markup constructs, but we\'ll need something with its functionality<br>&gt; to achieve the purpose of defining the url only once but using it<br>&gt; repeatedly.<br>&gt;<br>that bit may have some replacement in P5; maybe someone on the relevant<br>working group can comment [...]','Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner\'s questions on &lt;xref&gt; and declarations','Thu, 5 Feb 2004 23:03:17 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=27704">Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's questions on <xref> and declarations</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 5 Feb 2004 23:03:17 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">38 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Correct my if I\'ve missed something brutally obvious but ...<br><br>In the existing variations on the DTD could you not add an attribute URL<br>to the appropriate tags (and please add &lt;figure&gt; to the list) while<br>still accommodating those who prefer a set of declared entities (or &quot;keys&quot;)?<br><br>Is this a But Not If We Move To XML Schema issue, or is this just a new<br>ingredient for the pizza? [...]','Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner\'s questions on &lt;xref&gt; and declarations','Thu, 5 Feb 2004 19:34:46 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=28701">Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's questions on <xref> and declarations</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Walter Lewis</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 5 Feb 2004 19:34:46 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">23 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Walter Lewis wrote:<br>&gt; In the existing variations on the DTD could you not add an attribute URL<br>&gt; to the appropriate tags (and please add &lt;figure&gt; to the list) while<br>&gt; still accommodating those who prefer a set of declared entities (or &quot;keys&quot;)?<br><br>yes, indeed. its what I do myself in my local TEI extensions [...]','Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner\'s questions on &lt;xref&gt; and declarations','Fri, 6 Feb 2004 09:49:42 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=30795">Re: URL and Referencing was Re: [TEI-L] Beginner's questions on <xref> and declarations</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 6 Feb 2004 09:49:42 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">32 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="35"></a><a href="#35">which takes precedence, the prose or the schema?</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('Which Takes Precedence?<br>----- ----- -----------<br><br>KH&gt; When a conflict arises, which should be considered most<br>KH&gt; authoritative?<br>KH&gt; a) the Guidelines prose<br>KH&gt; b) the fragments of DTD interspersed in the Guidelines<br>KH&gt; c) a DTD as baked by the Pizza Chef<br><br>Oy vey, what a deep and multi-faceted question.<br><br>First off, let\'s add one to the list: [...]','which takes precedence, the prose or the schema?','Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:06:53 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=82297">which takes precedence, the prose or the schema?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Syd Bauman</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:06:53 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">113 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('At 09:06 PM 2/26/2004, Syd wrote:<br>&gt;The point is that in these cases it is the specification that is in<br>&gt;error, and (in my current humble opinion) one should deliberately<br>&gt;avoid leaving an escape hatch such as &quot;in cases of conflict the<br>&gt;Schema is normative&quot; which would permit users to continue to use a<br>&gt;specification that is broken rather than report the error and insist<br>&gt;it be corrected. [...]','Re: which takes precedence, the prose or the schema?','Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:39:45 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=85348">Re: which takes precedence, the prose or the schema?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Wendell Piez</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:39:45 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">107 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="36"></a><a href="#36">WYSIWYG editor with columns?</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('For my Hall\'s Chronicle (1550) edition, I\'m doing the first-phase diplomatic transcription using Word, with a three-column table (line numbers, text, notes). This basically suits the project well for now. But Word relies on Unicode for various special characters, and Concordance 3.0 won\'t recognize Unicode. The C3 developer recommends I switch to a good text editor (like MED, he suggested), but I\'d want one that has some WYSIWYG features, such as columns or, better, tables. Is there such an editor? [...]','WYSIWYG editor with columns?','Tue, 3 Feb 2004 12:33:32 -0800')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=11294">WYSIWYG editor with columns?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Al Magary</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 3 Feb 2004 12:33:32 -0800</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">59 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr class="normalgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('&gt;For my Hall\'s Chronicle (1550) edition, I\'m doing the first-phase<br>&gt;diplomatic transcription using Word, with a three-column table (line<br>&gt;numbers, text, notes). This basically suits the project well for now.<br>&gt;But Word relies on Unicode for various special characters, and<br>&gt;Concordance 3.0 won\'t recognize Unicode. The C3 developer recommends I<br>&gt;switch to a good text editor (like MED, he suggested)<br>&gt;<br>why would this make any difference? if you want special characters, you need Unicode regardless. maybe you mean that Word saves this using UTF16 encoding, and<br>program does not like that? [...]','Re: WYSIWYG editor with columns?','Tue, 3 Feb 2004 22:20:45 +0000')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=11958">Re: WYSIWYG editor with columns?</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Sebastian Rahtz</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Tue, 3 Feb 2004 22:20:45 +0000</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">34 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="37"></a><a href="#37">XMetal to move from Corel to Blast Metal</a></p></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr class="emphasizedgroup"> <td scope="row"><p class="archive"><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" width="15" height="1" alt=""> <span onmouseover="showDesc('According to an announcement today, a company called Blast Metal is<br>acquiring the XMetal XML editor:<br><br>http://www.blastradius.com/xmetal.jsp<br><br>I wonder if there\'s any hope they might take the software in a more<br>TEI-friendly direction than Corel was moving in?','XMetal to move from Corel to Blast Metal','Fri, 6 Feb 2004 13:49:27 -0500')" onmouseout="hideDesc()"><a href="https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0402&L=TEI-L&P=34670">XMetal to move from Corel to Blast Metal</a></span> </p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">David Sewell</p></td> <td nowrap><p class="archive">Fri, 6 Feb 2004 13:49:27 -0500</p></td> <td align="right" nowrap><p class="archive">24 lines</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="4" class="headergroup" scope="row"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td><img src="/archives/images/b-thread.png" alt="New Thread" title="New Thread"></td><td><img src="/archives/images/b-blank.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1"></td><td><p> <a name="38"></a><a href="#38">XML to process fieldwork questionnaire responses. 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