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Re: How many inflections is too many?

From:

Daniel Swanson <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 2 Feb 2018 08:41:53 -0500

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> I suspect there some natlangs who do even better than Hungarian. ANADEW
> many times over, methinks.    :)

If I've counted correctly, Berik's 3 numbers, 5 tenses (3 + 2 tense
replacers), 3 times of day, 2 distances, 3 sizes of object, 2 genders,
sometimes 2 heights, and 1 continuous action marker could sometimes pass
1000 verb conjugations.

https://www.sil.org/system/files/reapdata/18/46/65/18466581177539199512764079268820257250/GRAMMATICAL_SKETCH_OF_BERIK.pdf
(pages 19-23)

On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 6:17 AM, Raymond Brown <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> On 02/02/2018 02:57, George Walker wrote:
>
>> In my new conlang I've been working on called Hvaĉĭ, each verb has 72
>> completely distinct inflected forms.
>>
>
> Only 72?
>
> If the verb inflects for person & number and we're talking only about
> the finite parts of the verb, that gives just 12 different 'tense'
> forms.  Quite modest, especially if you have inflected tenses for both
> indicative and subjunctive moods (and if you an optative mood, that
> gives more).
>
> [snip]
>
> Is this too many?
>>
>
> Not IMO for an inflected language.
>
> Are there any natlangs that reach this level?
>>
>
> Latin, ancient Greek and, I'm darn sure, many others.  I didn't worry
> Schleyer when he was constructing Volapük; That conlang has more than
> one and half thousand inflected forms!
>
> Should I make Hvaĉĭ less fusional? (Obviously, this is going to be
>> pro-drop).
>>
>
> That's entirely up to you.  There's no reason to do so if you wish to
> create a fusional conlang.
>
> As for "How many inflections is too many?" - many generations of
> schoolkids learning Latin have probably thought that any more than
> English has is too many.  :)
>
> But how many is too many for a plausible fusional conlang? As they say,
> "how long is a piece of string?"
>
> On 02/02/2018 03:42, George Walker wrote:
>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_verbs
>> I got nothin' on Hungarian.
>> ANADEW I guess.
>>
>
> I suspect there some natlangs who do even better than Hungarian. ANADEW
> many times over, methinks.    :)
>
> Ray
>



-- 
Daniel Swanson, Certified Geek

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