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CONLANG  June 2009, Week 3

CONLANG June 2009, Week 3

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Re: OT: Systematic naming of political units in engelang or auxlang?

From:

Tony Harris <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:59:05 -0400

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Library is open but all non-US entrances are blocked, so if you live in
Rock Island you have to go through customs with your passport to take
out a book.  And I think they even made it so if there's a fire in VT
and the QC crew wants to help, they all have to go through customs the
normal way, or at least that's what they were talking about requiring.

I've heard the statistic that the Canadian border has more illegals, but
exclusively from Homeland Security as a justification for why they
absolutely have to lock down the US-Canadian border, not from any town,
city, county, or state authorities in Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, or
even New York so far as I know.  It might be that they *catch* more
illegal entrants on the Canadian border than they do on the Mexican one.
 In fact, there was quite the outcry from the border states since many
Canadians came, legally, into our states to do shopping, and now that's
a lot more difficult and is having an economic impact on the towns near
the border.

Of course the other thing is, there is a significant economic benefit to
having streams of people come in via Mexico who are willing to work for
low wages.  And of course, a benefit if you're a big company looking to
have a low-cost no-benefit workforce that doesn't dare complain how it's
treated.  Most Canadians I've met aren't interested in working for
sub-minimum wage with no benefits, while that's a step up for a lot of
the people coming in on the other border.

In any case, I believe back when the whole border-securing was being
initially pushed, it was pointed out that several people in the Congress
who were complaining loudly that the Canadian border was most important
one to police first and should take priority just happened to be from
places like Arizona and New Mexico...



Mark J. Reed wrote:
> n Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Tony Harris<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Another interesting example of this is the village of Derby Line,
>> Vermont and Rock Island, Quebec.
> 
>> The new rules put in by Homeland Security (to combat what they tell us
>> is an apparently huge number of illegal immigrants streaming across the
>> US-Canadian border for nefarious purposes, which is of course a far more
>> urgent an issue than dealing with the US-Mexican border, but I won't get
>> on that soapbox right now...)
> 
> Well, I've read estimates that there are in fact more illegals coming
> from Canada than Mexico.  The disproportionate focus on Mexico has
> been attributed to sheer racism, but there's also the fact that things
> are generally more chaotic in Mexico (more crime, more corruption in
> the gov't, etc), with the attendant concern that said chaos will spill
> over.
> 
>> complicated that and essentially make the cooperation that's been going on since the early
>> 1800's very difficult.
> 
> So what'd they do?  Is the library/opera house still open?
>>
>> Mark J. Reed wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 9:55 AM, <deinx nxtxr><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> Mark J. Reed wrote:
>>>> TN has some cities which actually occupy more than one county (Oak Ridge is
>>>> partly in Anderson Co. and partly in Roane Co.).
>>> Yup, those'd be examples of what I gave as counties that comprise part
>>> of a city.  Atlanta is another example, where most of it is in Fulton
>>> County (of which it is the county seat) but a chunk of it is in DeKalb
>>> County.
>>>
>>>> There are also cities like Bristol (TN/VA) or Kansas City (MO/KS) which are in two states.
>>> Or even two countries: consider Niagara Falls (Ontario/New York).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> 
> 
> 

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