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CONLANG  January 2000, Week 4

CONLANG January 2000, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Lason Agsem

From:

Christophe Grandsire <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:28:42 +0100

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At 20:22 24/01/00 -0600, you wrote:
>
>Let me give you some examples of paradigms, and see what you think:
>
>l'ehef - to love
>ehefen - loved
>ehefendo - loving
>
>                perfect
>1       ehefti          ehefnu
>2       ehefta          eheftem
>3       ehef            ehefu
>
>                imperfect
>1       ehef            nehef
>2       tehef           tehef
>3       jehef           jehefu
>

        Interesting: perfect shown by suffixes and imperfect by prefixes. I like it.

>
>Nouns:
>
>sad - demon     sades - demons
>amijo - friend  amiji - friends
>seme - seed     semi - seeds
>miseri - mystery miseres - mysteries
>nimpa - nymph   nimpaj - nymphs
>

        Are there some mappings, or do we have to learn each plural with its
corresponding singular? (it's not implausible for a secret language to have
such strange feature - even non-secret languages like Arabic have it :) - )

>Pronouns
>
>There are three levels of formality in pronoun usage.
>

        Definitely plausible, seen the origin of the language.

>
>Are these sound changes plausable:
>
>invocalic g -> j

        I think so. I would see: g -> G (intervocalic g becomes fricative) -> J
(advanced) -> j (fricative becomes approximant)

>ng -> nc
>gn -> cn

        Such devoicing is rather strange. I don't know if it's plausible to have
devoicing of a stop which is next to a nasal (normally voiced). Maybe a
kind of dissimilation.

>-us -> -o

        Quite possible, it's happened in Latin :) .

>-s -> 0
>-n -> 0
>-m -> 0
>

        Very possible. Latin is an example.

>Is it likely with a multi-source language that sound changes might only be
>applied to one of the source languages -- for instance, a different set of
>changes might apply to Hebrew roots than Latin ones?
>

        If those are conscious changes made by the magi when developping the
language, yes. But for unconscious sound changes, it seems more unlikely.
Anyway, I'm no expert about that.

>
>I know most of these changes and mixings aren't plausible, but do you
>think they'll work -- or even better, any cool ideas to incorporate?  I
>actually do intend to use this language at some point for magic, maybe
>even keep a grimoire in it.
>

        I think on the contrary that most of these changes are plausible. And the
origin of the language can explain why it has a different evolution
compared to natural languages, at least in the first generations of magi.

                                                        Christophe Grandsire
                                                |Sela Jemufan Atlinan C.G.

"Reality is just another point of view."

homepage : http://rainbow.conlang.org

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