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AUXLANG May 2000, Week 2

Subject:

Re: IAL Workshop

From:

Ken Caviness <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 9 May 2000 10:38:04 -0400

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Thanks, Paul, for summarizing the Interlingua Collateral Orthography for
us.  A couple of these I wasn't aware of.

I think regularized spelling is an excellent thing in a planlingvo --
one of the most important things that _should_ be planned rather than
"natural" (*) in a planned language.

But I really can't get excited about offering the _option_ of
regularized orthography -- this merely adds to the complications,
exceptions, and memory burden which, la¨ mi, planned auxiliary languages
should avoid like the plague.

If Interlingua didn't already have far too many of these for my personal
taste, I would certainly be in there using the collateral orthography,
and (hopefully) swaying others by my example.  I do encourage proponents
of Interlingua to seriously consider using it.

Amike/Amicalmente,

Ken

(* Sylvan Zaft, author of "Peter Jameson's Secret Language" and
"Esperanto: A Language for the Global Village"
[<http://members.aol.com/sylvanz/index.htm>] makes the interesting
observation that children don't find these "natural" irregularities
natural at all.  Yet the word "natural" carries a positive connotation
for many people.  As a more neutral term, I've occasionally used the
word "wild" in this connection.  I think that is as good a description
as any for the ethnic languages.)

Paul O Bartlett wrote:

> On Tue, 9 May 2000, Roy McCoy wrote (excerpted):
>
> >                    It isn't in fact Interlingua that doesn't make sense
> > to me, but the traditional Interlingua school that irregular spellings
> > should be maintained out of respect for etymology. [...]
> >                                  My sympathies are certainly with Inter-
> > lingua's phonetic school, since as a longtime Esperantist I find single
> > consonants to be strikingly more attractive than their (senselessly?)
> > double counterparts.
>
>     The Interlingua Collateral Orthography is set forth in section 15
> of the second edition (1955) of the "Interlingua Grammar" by Alexander
> Gode and Hugh E. Blair.  In brief, the allowable changes are:
>
> o Elimination of most double letters representing a single consonant
>   sound, except for 'cc' representing /k/ before 'e', 'i', and 'y', and
>   except for 'ss' (so it does not become confused with /z/).
> o Replacement of 'y' by 'i'.
> o Replacement of 'ph' by 'f'.
> o Replacement of 'ch' representing /k/ by 'c' except before 'e' and
>   'i' (to avoid the 'c' being pronounced as /s/).
> o Omission of silent 'h' after 'r' and 't'.
> o Replacement of 'j' for 'g' and 'gi' to represent /Z/.
> o Replacement of '-aje' for '-age' at the end of a word where it is not
>   a suffix.
> o Elision of final 'e' after 't' preceded by a vowel except in words
>   stressed on the antepenult (and except for present tense and imperative
>   verb forms); also final 'e' after 'n', 'l', and 'r' when these are the
>   collateral spellings for 'nn', 'll', and 'rr'. [Note that this rule
>   is the only one which would affect pronunciation, and therefore might
>   be the one least likely to be used.]
>
> But again, even though these rules have "official" sanction, they seem
> not to be in favor among netizen Interlinguaists.  Even so, they are
> there.
>
> --
> Paul                             mailto:[log in to unmask]
> ..........................................................
> Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA
> Keyserver (0xF383C8F9) or WWW for PGP public key
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