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AUXLANG  July 2000, Week 4

AUXLANG July 2000, Week 4

Subject:

The illusion of a neutral world language

From:

Kjell Rehnström <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:00:40 +0200

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From time to time on this list there are
discussions of a Neutral World language without
cultural bias. Such ideas are only there to cement
English as the world language, whether I like that
or not.

Because such a language demands a group of people
coming together from all over the world, being
able to communicate with each other and then
designing a world language.

But what is keeping people together are the
Western Ideas and Culture.
If you want to communicate with a person of the
Samis in Sweden you will have to know Swedish. If
a Saami and a Quechua speaker are to talk to each
other they will probably suppose that the
interlocutor knew English or Spanish!

There are no Quechua-Saami interpreters or
translators (as far as I at least know).

Saamis in Finland will of course know Finnish and
then English. Many Finns know English better than
Swedish (although the latter is one of the two
official languages in Finland). And to put it
straight: I have often used English in Finland
when my Finnish is not sufficient and my
interlocutor doesn't speak Swedish but English).
If there is communication I am content.

Language is politics. And I for one think that
English can be more neutral in Sweden and Finland
than the two national languages!

Many corporations are already using English as
their corporate language.

Some expert said that they are governed in English
and work is being done in Swedish (Finnish, German
etc.) if they are transnational.

In South America Spanish and Portuguese are the
uniting languages.

And as I said the élite everywhere knows a western
language or can hire such expertise.

Then there comes the question of propagation.

We can create a language that is very similar to
language material already known. This can be done
with a main emphasis on ease of grammar and word
formation (Esperanto), Ido, Volapük.

To spread these languages we can only put our
faith in a good promotional organisation,
excellent courses given to everyone interested.
And by creating ever growing islands of Language
Users we will spread the language.

It can be made by using whole wellknown word
structures (Interlingua, Latino sine Flexione,
Occidental). These languages give a possibility in
using the language from scratch. So all the three
of these mentioned, but above all Interlingua and
Occidental can be promotioned through active use.
I personally favour Interlingua but Occidental can
do the trick as well. What counts is the active
use of the languages, not talking about them, and
the more professional use possible, the better it
is.

If in a future great numbers of people would use
Interlingua and Occidental it would - whether the
"movements" liked it or not - come to a merger
between them on the basis of eas of use. This
problem can be seen as academic as we have not
seen much active use yet.

Depending from temperament, geographical and
social position (in a very large sence) the answer
to the question "Esperanto/Ido or
Interlingua/Occidental?" will be dependent from
whether the person believs in "take the course and
use the language" or "see to your astonishment
that you can understand some of the language
although you haven't learnt it, then take the
course and use it, or activize it while you are
learning".

It is therefore obvious that if I want to speak on
behalf of Interlingua or induce someone to learn
the language, I had better use Interlingua and
persuade those that could be persuaded. Those who
have no capacity to understand my interlingua will
hardly be convinced by my dilettantic and
hobyistic use of English.

And this explains very clearly Bob's attitude,
which I accept. He said in a recent posting that
he did not post in his favoured IAL as some on
this list do (I suppose - rightly or wrongly - he
was thinking about this humble person), because
this was not the forum to persuade anyone. Ut
dictum, correct!

For me on the other hand, it has some sence
posting in Interlingua from time to time as that
language gives me some more litteral freedom of
expression and at the same time can explain what
Interlingua is all about without me having to dive
into some lengthy complicated explanation of the
whys and hows.

In my case then, those who can will understand and
will be able to accept or reject the idea.

That is also why I would call Interlingua and
Occidental low-energy propagation languages,
because they will at first be used by those who
can understand them partly already at the
beginning.

High-energy persuasion languages like
Esperanto/Ido demand that I can talk well for the
merchandise and then really have those who said
that they would learn the langauges, really do
that as well.

That Occidental exists is good. It will give
interlingua competition, and it needs it. We are
looking forward to a very interesting future. In
its closest comming I am going to visit the
Interlingua Nordic conference at Löftadalens
Folkhögskola (Collegio del populo a Löftadalen).

I shall try to give you a report from there, Fate
willing!

Amicalmente

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