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AUXLANG  September 2000, Week 4

AUXLANG September 2000, Week 4

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Re: In/transitive

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Kjell Rehnström <[log in to unmask]>

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Sun, 24 Sep 2000 08:12:40 +0200

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Ken Caviness wrote:

> No, that's not "Q.E.D.", but it _is_ one data point.
>
> On the balance, I feel that Esperanto's accented characters are an
> improvement over the other options I'm aware of:  (1) overloading the
> letter with multiple unrelated sounds (common in some natural
> languages), (2) overloading letter combinations to form digraphs with
> sound values unrelated to the sounds of the individual letters (also
> common in certain ethnic languages), (3) invention of new, non-Latin
> characters for the extra sounds (as in Icelandic, etc.)

Skribente in kommunikando pro objektivitate:)
Habenti experientie in produker de dokuments in svedi lingve in le extraniere ego
ben sci li problem quando on debe usar litteres a non-kognoskiti diakritiki
signes. To e, etiam pro li svedi lingve, un critanti dolor in li rektum, malgrade
li fakt ke il ha plus svedesi humans ki usa svedese kvam persons ki usa esperanto.
(Parla del "Mus ki rugit"). O plus tosto li kauda ki adula li kan!

Un altri argument kontra li fonetiki skripture kvali voi ne ha adressat es li
tendentie klarmente visibli ke omni li auxiliari lingves ha un tendentie verso un
skripture traditional.

Esperanto ha su alfabete. Ido adde q et x, prokve sui konstruktors  eset plus
akkostumati al initiators de ido; oksidental komensa per un alfabete plenment
fonetik, ma ha etiam un tendens verso li traditionali ortografie.

Etsi ego es un grandi suportero de un rationablo fonetik ortografie ego time ke li
futur usators de kommunikando returnarea al skripture traditional, viste ke il ha
tanti impakt pro li anglesi lingve.

Ego ne sape an to e facilmen decifrabli, sed si voi lege a voke (pensa de vox,
vokal), voi va komprender ben, ego krede.

(Note del pronuntiation: li kombination gv posse ser pronuntiat "gu" o "gv"
sekundo vostri habitudes. To ne krea diffikultates in li komprension, viste ke
hispanofonos etiam ne maestra to in svedesi lingve, ma tote via es komprensibli.

Amikmente

Kellus





>
>
> Notice that the use of an accented letter to represent a sound different
> from the unaccented letter is also honored by usage in ethnic languages,
> although not in English.  So _all_ of these options are equally
> "natural", if we happen to care about that.  To decide between them, we
> must ask whether they are all equally appropriate in a planned language.
>
> For myself, I can only say that when I looked at Esperanto for the first
> time and found that
>
> 'g'  is always pronounced as the g in "girl"
> 'g^' is always pronounced as the g in "gem"
>
> Kaj tiel plu.  And so on.
>
> Now _that's_ clear and consistent, as a planned auxiliary language
> should be!
>
> Frankly, I was shocked to find, upon studying some other planned
> languages, that their creators often selected less logical
> alternatives.  This may have been done in the name of "naturalism", but
> none of these options are more natural than the others.  The bottom line
> is whether the planned language will cater to and import the
> idiosyncratic irregularities of some ethnic language, making it arguably
> easier for some (but at the expense of others).
>
> Amike,
>
> Ken

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