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CONLANG  September 2000, Week 4

CONLANG September 2000, Week 4

Subject:

Tolkien & conIALs (was: T-Shirt)

From:

Raymond Brown <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:19:50 +0100

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At 8:36 pm +1200 25/9/00, andrew wrote:
>Am 09/25 01:05  J?rg Rhiemeier yscrifef:
>
>> Quite hard, indeed.  BTW: What was Tolkien's opinion on auxlangs?
>> I have read that he took some interest in Esperanto, but wasn't he
>> quite sceptical about that matter?
>>
>If I remember correctly in the Letters he criticised Esperanto and
>Novial for having no history behind them.  I suppose he was arguing that
>a language should have its own culture, even one that is constructed for
>it.

Maybe - and I think there is merit in that.  It would IMHO have made
Esperanto more coherent if Zamenhof had devised, even in outline, a
'con-history' to account for a basically Romance lang, with a fair degree
of borrowing from Germanic & Slav & which had developed an distinctly
Slavic feel to its phonology.

I've been half-heartedly devising some vocab for 'briefscript'.  I tried
random computer generation (i.e. an a_priori approach) - the result was not
IMO satisfactory.  I started to derive CVC morphemes from a few chosen
'base langs', but realized that this was going to produce an arbitrary
hotch-potch.  So I must, I think, devise a con-history & culture, even tho
I will probably not ever develop it further.  I need it to give the
language coherence.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

At 12:39 pm -0400 25/9/00, John Cowan wrote:
>"Jörg Rhiemeier" wrote:
>
>> Quite hard, indeed.  BTW: What was Tolkien's opinion on auxlangs?
>> I have read that he took some interest in Esperanto, but wasn't he
>> quite sceptical about that matter?
>
>He was of course skeptical about E-o becoming *the* IAL, but he liked
>the language itself, not least because it was invented by one person,
>not a professional linguist -- in short, for its virtues as an artlang!

Oh yes, as an _artlang_ Esperanto has much to commend it IMO.

Ray.

=========================================
A mind which thinks at its own expense
will always interfere with language.
                   [J.G. Hamann 1760]
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