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CONLANG  October 2000, Week 1

CONLANG October 2000, Week 1

Subject:

Re: Korean/Japanese/Chinese (was: Re: FYI re: Greenberg's Universals)

From:

Marcus Smith <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:57:11 -0700

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Yoon Ha Lee wrote:


>Now I'm just confused.  <wince>  I think you're right, but darned if I
>can figure out what determines *where* the wh-word goes.  I'm guessing
>that it just straight-out replaces the equivalent word in the
>statement-sentence:

That's how Chinese and Japanese work, and I've been led to believe that the
same is true of Korean.  Just swap the wh-word with the non-question word
that would normally go there.

> > Note that if we treated all the people as males and said in English "Taro
> > said to Michi that Hitomi likes himself", "himself" could only refer to
> > "Hitomi" none of the other two.  Quite different from Japanese.
>
>...which would sound really odd since Hitomi is (if I understand
>correctly) a girl's name?  <G>

Yup.  It is.  That's why I said "if we treated all the people as males..." :-)

><parsing>  Hmm.  (The above looks like Yale transcription,
>am I right?  I usually use McCune-Reischauer since that's what all the
>darn subway sign transliterations use in Seoul.)

Could be.  I wouldn't know.

><thinking>  Could it?  I read this sentence as saying "Chelswu thinks
>Suni likes him."  Because -nun tells me that Chelswu is the one doing the
>thinking.  You might have to change casin-ul to casin-un or switch the
>particles on Chelswu and Suni, e.g.
>Suni-nun Chelswu-ka casin-ul saranghantako sayngakhanta
>means to me "Suni thinks Chelswu loves her."
>
><tearing out hair>  I just don't know enough Korean grammar.

But you are way ahead of me. :-)


===============================
Marcus Smith
AIM:  Anaakoot
"When you lose a language, it's like
dropping a bomb on a museum."
   -- Kenneth Hale
===============================

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