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CONLANG  October 2000, Week 1

CONLANG October 2000, Week 1

Subject:

Re: T-Shirt

From:

Padraic Brown <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Padraic Brown <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 2 Oct 2000 22:04:55 -0400

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On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Nik Taylor wrote:

>Steve Hefford wrote:
>> There's no word for extinction in Kurinets, I'm not sure they would have
>> the concept. I haven't yet created a word for 'invent' so I used 'tjime'
>> meaning create or craft.
>
>I don't think there would *be* a word for "invent" in Utakassí, which is
>why I used glí, create or make.  They're not big on the whole idea of
>change and progress like our culture.

Talarians see progress as something that happens naturally or
organically: not as an imperative. Invention is literally "give
birth to". Thus:

FFawto-he tenxwwanusha-can martan-hal : ffarasaahto tenxwwar-can.
strike(imper) lang(gen) dying(v.n., dat) : invent(imper) lang(acc)
Literally: Strike a blow on languages' dying: give birth to a
language!

Some new elements:
1) a formalisation of Siever's Law (VCCw/yo or V:Cw/yo > VCCuwo/iyo
or V:Cuwo/iyo). This was one of those things that was already
happening in the language, but I had no clue until reading about it.
In this case, in Sihler's "New Comp Grammar of Gk and Lat". Talarian
has this for example in "tenxwwar", language: ww = /uw/; while a yy
would equal /ij/. Of course, IE [o] becomes [a] or [&] as always.
2) some subdivisions within the Neuter class of nouns. Apart from the
"regular" neuters (like pihwwar, grease, fat and xosar, candied
eyeballs); there are the familial nouns (hasur, sister and tatar,
grandfather); an agentive noun in -tar - like -tor in Latin - (tomtar,
tooth (the biter) and hahuhamtactar, drover); an action noun in -an
(xaattan, a going, road and halomtan, a drinking, draught); and a
currently nameless verbal noun in -toos (hastoos, ember (the burnt
thing), etc.)  The Neuters all share the common trait of having stems
in -r/-n (though the verbal nouns have some cases in -s as well).
3)restoration of the glide y [j]. [j] > [h] just didn't seem right.
4)some tweaking with the numbers.
5)formalisation of the primary/secondary topic distinction in the
definite article.

>Dievas dave dantis; Dievas duos duonos

Taking into account the changes:

Teywas-tas tomtan-can toohit-he : teywas-tas taamtoos-can taahti.
god(s)-2   tooth-1    gave for  : god(s)-2   bread-1      give

A 1 denotes the primary topic, while a 2 denotes the secondary topic.

Padraic.

>God gave teeth; God will give bread - Lithuanian proverb
>ICQ: 18656696
>AIM Screen-Name: NikTailor
>

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