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Re: CONLANG Digest - 16 Oct 2000

From:

Muke Tever <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:04:22 -0400

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> From:    Muke Tever <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CONLANG Digest - 15 Oct 2000
>
> > I still wonder how young Spanish people (of my age: 25 or so) pronounce
> >ll...
>
> /j/ or /Z/ for me, usually (not Spain Spanish though).

My mistake, not /Z/ (that's the English approximation) ... more like
[j\] --voiced palatal fricative.  (Right after I posted this my brain went
"what _were_ you thinking?")

> From:    John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: OT: Prayer, ritual and magic // was conlang website
>
> > (1) My beliefs about the afterlife. The whole point of my faith is that
> >     given personal committment, God will transform us into perfect
beings
> >     incapable of sin.
>
> That is perfectly consistent with a place of rehabilitation (not
punishment)
> after death.  Do you expect that God will make you a perfect being merely
> by waving his hand, after all?  If that happened, you would no longer be
> yourself.

It's in I Corinthians 15:50-53.  He rightly calls it a mystery.

> >     That is what Heaven is all about. As for Hell, I
> >     believe it to be the place where souls are destroyed if they refuse
> >     to accept the only God who can possibly bring them fulfilment.
> >     Since I believe that souls are literally destroyed in Hell, I do not
> >     believe that Hell is eternal.
>
> That view is unorthodox (except to 7th Day Adventists and related sects)

Right (that's me, there).

> but (I suspect) privately widely held:  Lewis Carroll, otherwise an
entirely
> orthodox Anglican, believed it.

C.S. Lewis in "The Problem of Pain" also thinks something like it--he speaks
of the souls as immortal but--

     "Our Lord, while stressing the terror of hell with unsparing
     severity, usually emphasises the idea, not of duration but of
     _finality_.  Consignment to the destroying fire is usually
     treated as the end of the story--not as the beginning of a new
     story.  That the lost soul is eternally fixed in its diabolical
     attitude we cannot doubt: but whether this eternal fixity
     implies endless duration--or duration at all--we cannot say."

--which fits in with whoseever idea about it not being in time but in
eternity.

     *Muke!
--
http://muke.twu.net/

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