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CONLANG  February 2001, Week 3

CONLANG February 2001, Week 3

Subject:

Re: "Voiced aspirates" (was Re: YACQ: Plausibility of a sound change)

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On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 08:38:56PM -0500, Roger Mills wrote:
> Eric Christopherson wrote:
> >Wu too? I was originally under the impression that the only languages which
> >had them were a few Indic languages and Igbo. I got this from a page
> >maintained by former Conlang member Tom Wier,
> >http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~twier/mimungsociety/mimungglottalic.html :
> >
> >> Only six
> >> of the world's languages have the so-called "voiced aspirates"
> >> [bh dh gh] at all. Five are in India (all modern reflexes of Sanskrit);
> >> the sixth is Igbo in Africa.
> >
> >But upon browsing Ladegefod's _Preliminaries to Phonology_ (or something
> >like that anyway), I came across more examples of them, which Ladegefod
> >calls "murmured stops." And now John says Wu... hmm. Perhaps the
> traditional
> >PIE reconstruction really isn't so weird after all.>
>
> Come to think of it, Madurese of Indonesia has voiced aspirates, at least in
> the romanized spelling (probably transliterated from a Javanese/Sanskritized
> script); but I've never heard the lang. and suspect they may just be
> "breathy" or very lax(and in any case not historical), as are the plain
> voiced stops (for many speakers)  of neighboring Javanese.  Interesting
> sidebar:  Javanese students frequently had trouble hearing "normal" voiced
> stops (like Engl. or other regional langs.) and tended to call them
> "preglottalized".

Ah, another point for a plain voiced<->glottalized correspondence!

--
Eric Christopherson / *Aiworegs Ghristobhorosyo
Conlang code:
CU !lh:m cN:R:S:G a+ y n2d:1d !R* A-- E L* N1 Id:m k- ia- p+ m- o+ P-- d* b+++ lainesco

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