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CONLANG  February 2001, Week 3

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Re: Translation pattern of `to have'?

From:

Jörg Rhiemeier <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 22 Feb 2001 01:19:27 +0100

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Henrik Theiling <[log in to unmask]> writes:

> Hi!
>
> I'd like to know what ways exist of rendering the verb `to have' in
> other languages (both natural and constructed).

[examples snipped]

Germanech uses a verb "to have" just like English:

Jo hab      un auto.
I  have-1SG a  car

Nur-ellen uses a dative subject and a zero copula:

Nim     automobil.
1SG-DAT car-OBJ

I'll probably change this to a form with a non-zero verb "to exist", but
still with a dative subject.

> I'd like to know what concepts there are in general.  The language I
> am currently constructing is isolating, has no copula, is very
> regular, is All-Nouns and has active case marking.  Is there a typical
> way for such a language to render `to have'?

Certainly not as a normal transitive verb because there is no action
involved.  This is the reason why I arrived at the "to be + dative"
construction in Nur-ellen, which also has active case marking.

> I'm not too familiar with non-IE languages, just looked at the grammar
> of a few others, so maybe someone could tell me more.  What did you
> invent for your conlangs?  Why did you?  What natlangs do it what way?

I think the two pattern found in your examples (transitive verb "to
have", intransitive verb "to be/to exist" with the possessor in dative
or genitive case) are both very common.

Jörg.

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