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SCUBA-L  February 2001, Week 3

SCUBA-L February 2001, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Equipment servicing! (Was: Re: Planning a shore dive)

From:

Chuck <[log in to unmask]>

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Scuba diving discussion list <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 17 Feb 2001 21:37:56 -0600

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FWIW, you arent averaging that many more dives than I am and many of mine
are in really crappy conditions (lakes in Texas.) My regs get a regular
rinse and an annual service and one has been serving me for 6 years.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karla Clinch" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: Equipment servicing! (Was: Re: Planning a shore dive)


> In a message dated 2/16/01 10:35:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> <<
> (snip)
> ]> And wwhy are we basing it on months?
>
> Because you earlier stated:
> >I have or will have tune ups done more on my beach regs, than
> I
> > will my other regs---which I have done about once every 4 months right
> now.
> > My beach regs will be done about once every 3 months.<
>
> Maybe. Since I am averaging more than 50-60 dives in 4 months, and am
diving
> daily from the beach.....damn, my back hurts from that sometimes....>VBG.
> I figure the amount fo use-----consider that about every 5,000 miles or
> so.....
>
> Now someone suggested vehicles could go every 10-15 thousand miles without
an
> oil change.
>
> Personally, my Honda Accord---a 1986, with 250,000 miles on it has to have
> it's oil changed every 2000 miles. I can hear the difference in the
engine
> about that time. Now, I know this car inside an out. I do my own oil
> changes and tune ups. Hence, when that engine starts to chatter, I know
it
> is time for an oil change.
> BTW, that car has been all over the U.S. and I bought for $1500 from my
> mechanic when it had 30000 miles on it. I have put 220000 miles on it,
only
> changing the oil on a regular basis, changing the timeing belt, and a new
> radiator and water pump. Which, BTW, I did all by myself......
>
> Now, I say all that to say this. I know my gear. I know, can sense when
> something is not right. When that occurs, I won't take chances. I get it
> checked out.
>
> Maybe it is a "trap". But when you are planning your dives to 100+ feet,
why
> take a chance?
>
> <<Perhaps more clarification is needed? Sharing the load between two
sets of
> regulators, (granted you may be doing less beach than boat dives, or vice
> versa, so that one set of regulators is getting far more use than the
other.
> And assuming that you carry out proper post-dive washing and cleaning
> procedures; check that no sand or grit is lodged in the second stage;
that
> the diaphragm and seals are ok; that the exhaust valve is ok and seating
> correctly; that the purge system functions correctly, that you check the
> hoses and store the unit properly, etc.), and based on the number of
dives,
> it seems to me to be an excessive amount of work carried out on your
regs!
> What are the manufacturer's recommendations as far as service/maintenance
> intervals are concerned? When you say, 'tune-ups', what exactly do you
> mean? Are you referring to both the first and second stages? Or just
the
> second stage?>>
>
> I do clean my equipment. Not after every dive, but generally take it all
out
> one night a week and give it all a going over, cleaning, oiling, thourough
> drying, washing my suits ect......
> As far as tune ups go....just that. Generally only 2nd stages. Depends.
> If the tune up of the second stage doesn't seem right, I will have my
> servicer go over the first stage.
> As I think about it....I am probably doing about 50/50 in the types of
dives.
> 5 beach dives on average, and 4-8 boat dives.
>
>
> >I personally base mine on the number of
> > dives I am doing.
>
> It depends, of course, on the regulator model, (and the care given to
it!),
> but based on a heavy diving programme using just one set of regs, I'd be
> inclined to say that any more frequently than every six months or so is
> *extremely excessive* and should be unnecessary. Sharing the load
between
> two sets over 115 dives ...! :-)
>
> > Lets' face it, not servicing or having our gear checked on a very
regular
> > basis is stupid, and can cost either you or someone else their life.
>
> I'm all in favour of regular (as opposed to "very regular"!) servicing
> that's carried out by a suitably qualified technician following the
> manufactuer's specifications. But over-servicing can be as risky as
> no-servicing at all and actually lead to a decrease in the regs
performance
> characteristics. Regulators have - and can - clap out for no apparent
> reason. But it's extremely rare. The user will generally gain a gradual
> appreciation that it's not working as well as it should. In which case,
> regardless of the interval between having it serviced, it's time to wheel
it
> back in for a thorough overhaul and service to correct the fault. But if
it
> continues to perform up to expectations with even very heavy and regular
use
> then, as far as I can see, there's no point in having it serviced in less
> than at least six months.
>
> > If you can afford to dive, you can afford to have your gear checked
out.
>
> Checking gear is something that all diver's should carry out as a matter
of
> course before and after each dive. Servicing that gear and fiddling with
> the settings should only be done according to the manufacturer's
> reccomendations - or when it's apparent that it's not performing
correctly!
>
> A good parallel is the frequency with which divers monitor their gauges.
> Generally speaking the deeper you go then the more frequently you check
the
> SPG. Some people - even in the shallows - hold the SPG in front of their
> face throughout the course of a dive. It's obsessive behaviour that -
apart
> from the obvious indication that they're not really comfortable with
> diving - can be justified on the grounds of 'playing it safe'! (I'm not
> suggesting that you're not confident in your abilities or that of the
> equipment, but I am attempting to point up that over-servicing *may* not
be
> necessary and can, in fact, detract from your diving enjoyment!) :-)
> >>
>
> I don't personally feel that it detracts from my diving enjoyment. Just
the
> opposite. Since I get to sit in on the servicing....I am learning
something.
> I like to learn. Not that I will ever do it my self, just that I like to
> learn and observe.....
>
> Sure, your not.....I have you figured out, Strike.....Grinning very much
> right now....you just like to start trouble.......Just kidding....Can't
wait
> to meet you someday....
>
> Later,
> Karla
>
>
> Karla Clinch
> Dog Training By Karla
> Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
> 954-255-2389
> [log in to unmask]
> "Training Your Dog To Suit Your Needs"
> Member IACP, APDT, ADOA, IAADP, FOAH
> Secretary FOAH
>

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