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CONLANG  March 2001, Week 4

CONLANG March 2001, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Dalmatian Grammar - an outline (Part 2)

From:

Christophe Grandsire <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:40:54 +0200

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En réponse à Frank George Valoczy <[log in to unmask]>:

> VERBS
>
> Verbs have the following forms:
>
> Presnt indicative
> Imperfect indicative
> Past Perfect indicative
> Future indicative
> Present subjunctive
> Past subjunctive
> Present conditional
> Past conditional
> Imperative
>

No Perfect indicative (or Past simple)? Did the imperfect take over all past
nuances?

> infinitive, past & present participles
>
>         REGULAR -E VERBS: a dzimete "to forgive"
>
> PRESENT INDICATIVE      IMPERFECT IND           PAST PERF IND
>
> go dzimetesc            go dzimeteyesc          go su dzimetetu
> tu dzimetes             tu dzimeteyes           tu yes dzimetetu
> il dzimete              il dzimeteye            il ye dzimetetu
> nos dzimetme            nos dzimeteyme          nos sme dzimeteti
> vos dzimetes            vos dzimeteyes          vos ste dzimeteti
> eis dzimeten            eis dzimeteyen          eis scia dzimeteti
>

Looks nice!

> FUTURE IND
>
> go meu a dzimete / dzimetemeu
> tu meres a dzimete / dzimetemeres
> il mea a dzimete / dzimetemea
> nos merme a dzimete / dzimetemerme
> vos meres a dzimete / dzimetemeres
> eis meren a dzimete / dzimetemeren
>

Interesting to use "to go" for the future. Dalmatian didn't suffer as much
Baltic influence as Romanian, did it? Or else I think it would have taken a
future with "to want", like Romanian, Bulgarian or Modern Greek.

> PRESENT SUBJUNCTIVE             PAST SUBJUNCTIVE
>
> go bi dzimetetu                 go ai fusu bi dzimetetu
> tu bi dzimetetu                 tu ais fusu bi dzimetetu
> il bi dzimetetu                 il a fusu bi dzimetetu
> nos bi dzimeteti                nos ame fusi bi dzimeteti
> vos bi dzimeteti                vos aves fusi bi dzimeteti
> eis bi dzimeteti                eis au fusi bi dzimeteti
>

Where does "bi" come from?

> PRESENT CONDITIONAL             PAST CONDITIONAL
>
> go sce dzimete                  go sce dzimetetu
> tu sce dzimete                  tu sce dzimetetu
> il sce dzimete                  il sce dzimetetu
> nos sce dzimete                 nos sce dzimeteti
> vos sce dzimete                 vos sce dzimeteti
> eis sce dzimete                 eis sce dzimeteti
>

Same question with "sce". :)

> IMPERATIVE
>
> (tu) dzimet!
> (vos) dzimetaci!
>
> Infinitive: a dzimete
> Past participle: dzimetetu
> Pres participle: dzimetavsciu
>

/dzimetavSu/? What a strange word to pronounce :)) . Does this present
participle formation come from Slavic langs?

>
>         IRREGULAR VERB: a esta "to be"
>
> PRES IND        IMPERF IND      FUT IND SHORT           IMPERATIVE
>
> go su           go aira         esmeu
> tu yes          tu aires        esmeres                 sei!
> il ye           il aira         esmea
> nos sme         nos airame      esmerme
> vos ste         vos airate      esmeres                 fici!
> eis scia        eis airaya      esmeren
>

I like those initial clusters in /sm/, it looks so nicely un-Romance :) .

> Infinitive: a esta
> past part: fusu
>
> Like this also are conjugated verbs like a abesta "to be away"
>

So you kept the Latin compound verbs "prefix+esse"? Very nice. In my Reman, I
think I didn't keep those compounds, but on the other hand developped a lot of
compounds with iri: to go.

>
>         IRREGULAR VERB: a mea "to go"
>
> PRES IND        IMPERF IND      FUT IND SHORT           IMPERATIVE
>
> go meu          go irya         irmea
> tu meres        tu ires         irmeres                 ba!
> il mea          il ira          irmea
> nos merme       nos irme        irmerme
> vos meres       vos ires        irmeres                 meci!
> eis meren       eis iren        irmeren
>

Where do the infinitive and present forms come from?

Christophe.

http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr

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